[tz] OpenJDK/CLDR/ICU/Joda issues with Ireland change
Paul Eggert
eggert at cs.ucla.edu
Fri Jan 26 22:25:45 UTC 2018
On 01/26/2018 02:15 PM, Meno Hochschild wrote:
> Let's imagine that Ireland will one day start to consider the winter
> time as standard and rename both winter and summer time accordingly.
> Would the tzdb maintainers then "reuse" the "Eire"-rules for the new
> positive dst offset? I hope not and ask if a new ruleset with a
> different new name can be taken into consideration. Can I rely on that?
I'm afraid not, as that restriction is not in the code or the
documentation. Also, I don't see why the restriction would help; it
seems a bit arbitrary.
> By the way: I discovered that the current practice in Java is broken
> for Ireland in the years 1968-71 where OpenJDK just prints "Greenwich
> Mean Time" althoug it should be read as "Irish Standard Time". My
> adjusted tz-compiler has finally coped with the right naming using the
> version v2018b but would be broken again with new version v2018c (and
> Java remains broken here for the years 1968-71 in Ireland). So the
> reverted change in v2018c is not really an improvement (and for me
> even worse).
Yes, sorry about that. I'm hoping to come up with a scheme that will
support both old-style (2017c and earlier) and new-style (2018a and
2018b) approaches soon. As usual I'll publish proposed patches before
distributing a new release, and I hope you'll try them out.
> The new version v2018c is only good for OpenJDK when handling Ireland
> now in year 2018.
Yes, this is a known issue with CLDR, discussed here:
https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2018-January/025974.html
which says that CLDR doesn't worry about timestamps before 1990.
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