From mir at pax.apana.org.au  Tue Mar  3 11:20:09 2009
From: mir at pax.apana.org.au (Mirko Fluher)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:20:09 +1100
Subject: tzdata2009b
Message-ID: <20090303112009.GA22067@pax.apana.org.au>

The file tzdata2009b.tar.gz needs to be updated to reflect the new 
daylight saving of Australia/Victoria ... now moving from March to the first
Sunday in April see:

http://www.vic.gov.au/news-detail/daylight-saving-has-changed.html

Thank you!
Cheers,

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From mir at pax.apana.org.au  Tue Mar  3 11:54:17 2009
From: mir at pax.apana.org.au (Mirko Fluher)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:54:17 +1100
Subject: ooppsss... 
Message-ID: <20090303115417.GA22321@pax.apana.org.au>

sorry ... ignore my previous message .. 
the current tzdata file is ok for Australia/Victoria !

Cheers,

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From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Wed Mar  4 16:35:20 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:35:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Cuba will start DST on midnight between March 07, 2009 and March 08, 2009
Message-ID: <loom.20090304T163314-793@post.gmane.org>

According to the Radio Reloj - Cuba will start Daylight Saving Time on midnight 
between Saturday, March 07, 2009 and Sunday, March 08, 2009-
not on midnight March 14 / March 15 as previously thought.

http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html
(in Spanish)


Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar  9 14:31:49 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:31:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change to northamerica file in time zone package for Cuba
Message-ID: <200903091431.n29EVnZP029564@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Having checked this morning on Cuba having actually switched,
here's a proposed change to the "northamerica" file.
Assuming no problems are found, expect this version to hit the ftp site
in a week.

				--ado

------- northamerica -------
*** /tmp/geta29524	Mon Mar  9 10:29:36 2009
--- /tmp/getb29524	Mon Mar  9 10:29:36 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)northamerica	8.26
  # <pre>
  
  # also includes Central America and the Caribbean
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)northamerica	8.27
  # <pre>
  
  # also includes Central America and the Caribbean
***************
*** 2258,2263 ****
--- 2258,2282 ----
  # From Arthur David Olson (2008-03-12):
  # Assume Sun>=15 (third Sunday) going forward.
  
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-04)
+ # According to the Radio Reloj - Cuba will start Daylight Saving Time on
+ # midnight between Saturday, March 07, 2009 and Sunday, March 08, 2009-
+ # not on midnight March 14 / March 15 as previously thought.
+ #
+ # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html">
+ # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html
+ # (in Spanish)
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Arthur David Olson (2009-03-09)
+ # I listened over the Internet to
+ # <a href="http://media.enet.cu/readioreloj">
+ # http://media.enet.cu/readioreloj
+ # </a>
+ # this morning; when it was 10:05 a. m. here in Bethesda, Maryland the
+ # the time was announced as "diez cinco"--the same time as here, indicating
+ # that has indeed switched to DST. Assume second Sunday from 2009 forward.
+ 
  # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  Rule	Cuba	1928	only	-	Jun	10	0:00	1:00	D
  Rule	Cuba	1928	only	-	Oct	10	0:00	0	S
***************
*** 2290,2296 ****
  Rule	Cuba	2000	2004	-	Apr	Sun>=1	0:00s	1:00	D
  Rule	Cuba	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	0:00s	0	S
  Rule	Cuba	2007	only	-	Mar	Sun>=8	0:00s	1:00	D
! Rule	Cuba	2008	max	-	Mar	Sun>=15	0:00s	1:00	D
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	America/Havana	-5:29:28 -	LMT	1890
--- 2309,2316 ----
  Rule	Cuba	2000	2004	-	Apr	Sun>=1	0:00s	1:00	D
  Rule	Cuba	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	0:00s	0	S
  Rule	Cuba	2007	only	-	Mar	Sun>=8	0:00s	1:00	D
! Rule	Cuba	2008	only	-	Mar	Sun>=15	0:00s	1:00	D
! Rule	Cuba	2009	max	-	Mar	Sun>=8	0:00s	1:00	D
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	America/Havana	-5:29:28 -	LMT	1890


From baby at baby.com.ar  Fri Mar 13 10:38:34 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:38:34 -0200
Subject: Last minute change for the Province of San Luis (Argentina)
Message-ID: <49BA37AA.2050708@baby.com.ar>

Hi,

yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis decided 
that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go to 
utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October...

The press release is at 
http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102 
(I couldn't find the decree, but www.sanluis.gov.ar is the official page 
for the Province Government).

There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La Naci?n) 
at http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912

I'll try to write a patch to southamerica and send it right away.

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From baby at baby.com.ar  Fri Mar 13 11:03:40 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:03:40 -0200
Subject: Last minute change for the Province of San Luis (Argentina)
In-Reply-To: <49BA37AA.2050708@baby.com.ar>
References: <49BA37AA.2050708@baby.com.ar>
Message-ID: <49BA3D8C.8040809@baby.com.ar>

Mariano Absatz - El Baby escribi? el 13/03/09 08:38:
> yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis 
> decided that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go 
> to utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October...
>
> The press release is at 
> http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102 
> (I couldn't find the decree, but www.sanluis.gov.ar is the official 
> page for the Province Government).
>
> There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La 
> Naci?n) at http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912
>
> I'll try to write a patch to southamerica and send it right away.
The press release says:
> (...) anunci? que el pr?ximo domingo a las 00:00 los puntanos deber?n 
> atrasar una hora sus relojes.
>  
> A partir de entonces, San Luis establecer? el huso horario propio de 
> la Provincia. De esta manera, durante el periodo del calendario anual 
> 2009, el cambio horario quedar? comprendido entre las 00:00 del tercer 
> domingo de marzo y las 24:00 del segundo s?bado de octubre.
Quick&dirty translation
> (...) announced that next Sunday, at 00:00, Puntanos (the San Luis 
> inhabitants) will have to turn back one hour their clocks
>
> Since then, San Luis will establish its own Province timezone. Thus, 
> during 2009, this timezone change will run from 00:00 the third Sunday 
> in March until 24:00 of the second Saturday in October.

Attached is a patch that implements just that only for 2009, and then 
leaves the Province fixed at UTC-03:00.

Regards.



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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 14:00:14 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:00:14 -0400
Subject: tzdata2009c.tar.gz
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0534@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The file...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009c.tar.gz
...is now available; this reflects the change to the start of Cuban DST
circulated last week on the time zone mailing list.

I'm holding off on a San Luis (Argentina) change pending investigation
of whether they plan to switch clocks every year.

					--ado



From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 14:32:23 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:32:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change for San Luis
Message-ID: <200903161432.n2GEWND3000925@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Below is a proposed change for San Luis, reflecting the claim that the province will be observing standard Argentine DST in the future.
Barring negative comments, this change will appear in the ftp version in a week.

				--ado

------- southamerica -------
*** /tmp/geta878	Mon Mar 16 10:29:25 2009
--- /tmp/getb878	Mon Mar 16 10:29:25 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)southamerica	8.33
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)southamerica	8.34
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 351,357 ****
--- 351,401 ----
  # keep America/Cordoba a single region rather than splitting it into the
  # other 5 subregions.
  
+ # From Mariano Absatz (2009-03-13):
+ # Yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis
+ # decided that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go
+ # to utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October...
  #
+ # The press release is at
+ # <a href="http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102">
+ # http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102
+ # </a>
+ # (I couldn't find the decree, but
+ # <a href="http://www.sanluis.gov.ar">
+ # www.sanluis.gov.ar
+ # <a/>
+ # is the official page for the Province Government).
+ #
+ # There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La Naci?n) at
+ # <a href="http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912">
+ # http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912
+ # </a>
+ # 
+ # The press release says:
+ #  (...) anunci? que el pr?ximo domingo a las 00:00 los puntanos deber?n
+ # atrasar una hora sus relojes.
+ #
+ # A partir de entonces, San Luis establecer? el huso horario propio de
+ # la Provincia. De esta manera, durante el periodo del calendario anual
+ # 2009, el cambio horario quedar? comprendido entre las 00:00 del tercer
+ # domingo de marzo y las 24:00 del segundo s?bado de octubre.
+ # Quick&dirty translation
+ # (...) announced that next Sunday, at 00:00, Puntanos (the San Luis
+ # inhabitants) will have to turn back one hour their clocks
+ #
+ # Since then, San Luis will establish its own Province timezone. Thus,
+ # during 2009, this timezone change will run from 00:00 the third Sunday
+ # in March until 24:00 of the second Saturday in October.
+ 
+ # From Arthur David Olson (2009-03-16):
+ # The unofficial claim at
+ # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/san-luis-new-time-zone.html">
+ # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/san-luis-new-time-zone.html
+ # </a>
+ # is that "The province will most likely follow the next daylight saving schedule,
+ # which is planned for the second Sunday in October."
+ 
+ #
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  #
  # Buenos Aires (BA), Capital Federal (CF),
***************
*** 498,504 ****
  			-3:00	-	ART	2004 May 31
  			-4:00	-	WART	2004 Jul 25
  			-3:00	Arg	AR%sT	2008 Jan 21
! 			-3:00	-	ART
  #
  # Santa Cruz (SC)
  Zone America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos -4:36:52 - LMT 1894 Oct 31
--- 542,549 ----
  			-3:00	-	ART	2004 May 31
  			-4:00	-	WART	2004 Jul 25
  			-3:00	Arg	AR%sT	2008 Jan 21
! 			-3:00	-	ART	2009 Mar 15
! 			-4:00	Arg	WAR%sT
  #
  # Santa Cruz (SC)
  Zone America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos -4:36:52 - LMT 1894 Oct 31


From nazabal at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 14:57:17 2009
From: nazabal at gmail.com (Norberto Nazabal)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:57:17 -0300
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <4b06bbe40903160757n28f7fe45l75b8d0b556762555@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

First, let me thank to all of you for your excellent work maintaining the
time zone database.
I'm user of several programs using your database as source and I want to add
a new time zone for San Luis, Argentina because currently we are using a
different time zone that all the rest of the country.
This is the link for the local law (spanish) that define the new time zone:
http://ministerios.sanluis.gov.ar/res/media/pdf/18459.doc
Basically the law says:
1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of
October to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of April.
2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of
April to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of October.

I hope this can help you to include these changes in your database to be
able to select the correct time zone for my State.

Thanks,

Norberto Nazabal
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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 14:59:52 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:59:52 -0400
Subject: FW: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0538@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message from Norberto Nazabal, who is not on the
time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct
replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:58
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina

Hi all,

First, let me thank to all of you for your excellent work maintaining
the time zone database.
I'm user of several programs using your database as source and I want to
add a new time zone for San Luis, Argentina because currently we are
using a different time zone that all the rest of the country.
This is the link for the local law (spanish) that define the new time
zone: http://ministerios.sanluis.gov.ar/res/media/pdf/18459.doc
Basically the law says:
1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour from the second
Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of April.
2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour from the second
Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of October.

I hope this can help you to include these changes in your database to be
able to select the correct time zone for my State.

Thanks,

Norberto Nazabal



From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Mon Mar 16 16:43:53 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:43:53 +0100
Subject: Tunisia cancels DST
Message-ID: <49BE81C9.6010507@thorsen.priv.no>

According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year.
(Arabic)
http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546
http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp

We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia.
We have a wrap-up about this on the following page:
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html

Regards,
Steffen Thorsen / timeanddate.com


From jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx  Mon Mar 16 18:45:41 2009
From: jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jesper_N=F8rgaard?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:45:41 -0600
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <000001c9a667$6d2392e0$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>

Norberto Nazabal wrote:

>Basically the law says:

>1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of
October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April.

>2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of
April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.

I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was
published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains
serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so
long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following
the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press
conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?

The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second
Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second
Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining
two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this
is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the
24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00
hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where
the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th.
of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday).
So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from
2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from
2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??

The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in
a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The
future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different,
Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18
00:00:00.

Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen


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From nazabal at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 19:18:47 2009
From: nazabal at gmail.com (Norberto Nazabal)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:18:47 -0300
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
In-Reply-To: <000001c9a667$6d2392e0$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
References: <000001c9a667$6d2392e0$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
Message-ID: <4b06bbe40903161218j6ed369berf6ea5ff7912d045f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jesper,

Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using
the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00.
I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I
will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that
information.
Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time
zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of
which time zone we will use.

Regards,

Norberto Nazabal.


2009/3/16 Jesper N?rgaard <jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx>

>  Norberto Nazabal wrote:
>
> >Basically the law says:
>
> >1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday
> of October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April.
>
> >2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday
> of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.
>
> I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was
> published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains
> serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so
> long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following
> the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press
> conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?
>
> The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second
> Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second
> Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining
> two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this
> is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the
> 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00
> hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where
> the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th.
> of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday).
> So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from
> 2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from
> 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??
>
> The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree
> in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed.
> The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different,
> Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18
> 00:00:00.
>
> Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen
>
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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 19:19:55 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:19:55 -0400
Subject: FW: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A053B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message from NorbertoNazabal, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:19
To: Jesper N?rgaard
Cc: TZ-list
Subject: Re: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina

Hi Jesper,

Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00.
I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that information.
Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of which time zone we will use.

Regards,

Norberto Nazabal.

2009/3/16 Jesper N?rgaard <jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx>
Norberto Nazabal wrote:
>Basically the law says:
>1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour?of the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the second?Saturday of April.
>2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour?of the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.
I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was published?already back in December 2008. However this definition contains serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST?instead with a frantic press conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?
The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always?the same time as the Second Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00 hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th. of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday). So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from 2011-10-09 00:00:00?to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??
The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different, Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18 00:00:00.
Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen

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From baby at baby.com.ar  Mon Mar 16 22:10:17 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:10:17 -0300
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A053B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A053B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <49BECE49.9040403@baby.com.ar>

Hi,

Jesper is right in what he notes regarding the inconsistency of 2nd 
Saturday @24:00 vs. 2nd Sunday @00:00.

It is weird that, even when San Luis is having its own timezone for the 
winter, they also have their own algorithm for changing... in their 
favor, the National Government is NOT defining in advance what algorithm 
they will use next year, so that they could decide every year a 
different rule :-(

Norberto,

please, if you can contact someone responsible within the Provincial 
Government, try to explain to them the problem and what would they do in 
April 2012 that is the first time the rule will fail (I bet they'll say 
that they will eventually check that in 2011 or later)... don't expect 
them to understand the problem (although it might be easier that someone 
does understand in San Luis than in Buenos Aires).

Don't hesitate to write directly to me in Spanish if you'd rather I 
translate or forward your messages to the list, either at this address 
or, better yet, at "el PUNTO baby ARROBA gmail PUNTO com".

If you need help, drop me a line in private and we can talk over the phone.

Regards, and very nice to see there's someone else in Argentina worrying 
about this :-)


Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] escribi? el 16/03/09 16:19:
> I'm forwarding this message from NorbertoNazabal, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately.
>
> 				--ado
>
> From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:19
> To: Jesper N?rgaard
> Cc: TZ-list
> Subject: Re: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
>
> Hi Jesper,
>
> Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00.
> I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that information.
> Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of which time zone we will use.
>
> Regards,
>
> Norberto Nazabal.
>
> 2009/3/16 Jesper N?rgaard <jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx>
> Norberto Nazabal wrote:
>   
>> Basically the law says:
>> 1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April.
>> 2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.
>>     
> I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?
> The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00 hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th. of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday). So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from 2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??
> The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different, Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18 00:00:00.
> Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen
>   

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From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Tue Mar 17 10:32:53 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:32:53 +0100
Subject: Morocco to observe DST in 2009
Message-ID: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no>

Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 
according to many sources, such as
http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French)

Our summary:
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html

Best regards,
Steffen / timeanddate.com


From ygoraly at gmail.com  Tue Mar 17 17:08:40 2009
From: ygoraly at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?15nXotecINeS15XXqNec15k=?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:08:40 +0200
Subject: Morocco to observe DST in 2009
In-Reply-To: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no>
References: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no>
Message-ID: <24c7744e0903171008g54ea385dw621758d1ba055ace@mail.gmail.com>

DST starts on July 1 at midnight - GMT+1
DST ends on August 20 at 23:00

I verified Tunisia.


On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Steffen Thorsen <straen at thorsen.priv.no>wrote:

> Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00
> according to many sources, such as
> http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
> http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French)
>
> Our summary:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
>
> Best regards,
> Steffen / timeanddate.com
>
>
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From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Tue Mar 17 17:59:05 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:59:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Morocco to observe DST in 2009- link to official document
References: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no> <24c7744e0903171008g54ea385dw621758d1ba055ace@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20090317T175806-11@post.gmane.org>

??? ????? <ygoraly <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> DST starts on July 1 at midnight - GMT+1DST ends on August 20 at 23:00I 
verified Tunisia.On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Steffen Thorsen <straen <at> 
thorsen.priv.no> wrote:Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-
08-21 00:00 according to many sources, such 
ashttp://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-
saving.htmlhttp://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French)
> Our summary:http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
> Best regards,
> Steffen / timeanddate.com


Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre, 
Minist?re de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics 

Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967) 
concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of 
Public Sectors 
announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be advanced 60 minutes 
from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight.

http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf

http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html

Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Tue Mar 17 18:07:51 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:07:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Tunisia cancels DST- links to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency
References: <49BE81C9.6010507@thorsen.priv.no>
Message-ID: <loom.20090317T180633-600@post.gmane.org>

Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency

Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn):

(in English)
http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157

(in Arabic)
http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1

Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Wed Mar 18 12:56:35 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:56:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed changes to "africa" for Morocco and Tunisia
Message-ID: <200903181256.n2ICuZNX008659@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Here are proposed changes to the "africa" file in the time zone package;
these reflect changes in Morocco and Tunisia.
If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp version on the 23rd.

				--ado

------- africa -------
*** /tmp/geta8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
--- /tmp/getb8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)africa	8.17
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)africa	8.18
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 564,569 ****
--- 564,603 ----
  # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html">
  # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html
  # </a>
+ 
+ # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-17):
+ # Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 according
+ # to many sources, such as
+ # <a href="http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html">
+ # http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
+ # </a>
+ # <a href="http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312">
+ # http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312
+ # </a>
+ # (French)
+ #
+ # Our summary:
+ # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html">
+ # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
+ # Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre,
+ # Ministere de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics
+ #
+ # Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967)
+ # concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of
+ # Public Sectors announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be
+ # advanced 60 minutes from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight.
+ #
+ # <a href="http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf">
+ # http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html">
+ # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html
+ # </a>
+ 
  # RULE	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  
  Rule	Morocco	1939	only	-	Sep	12	 0:00	1:00	S
***************
*** 583,588 ****
--- 617,624 ----
  Rule	Morocco	1978	only	-	Aug	 4	 0:00	0	-
  Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
  Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Sep	 1	 0:00	0	-
+ Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
+ Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Aug	 21	 0:00	0	-
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone Africa/Casablanca	-0:30:20 -	LMT	1913 Oct 26
  			 0:00	Morocco	WE%sT	1984 Mar 16
***************
*** 787,792 ****
--- 823,865 ----
  # Ending         : the last Sunday of October at 03:00 ...
  # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1188&Itemid=50
  
+ # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-16):
+ # According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year.
+ # (Arabic)
+ # <a href="http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546">
+ # http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546
+ # </a>
+ # <a href="http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp">
+ # http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia.
+ # We have a wrap-up about this on the following page:
+ # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html">
+ # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
+ # Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency
+ #
+ # Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn):
+ #
+ # (in English)
+ # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157">
+ # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # (in Arabic)
+ # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1">
+ # http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Arthur David Olson (2009--3-18):
+ # The Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency notice contains this: "This measure is due to the fact
+ # that the fasting month of ramadan coincides with the period concerned by summer time.
+ # Therefore, the standard time will be kept unchanged the whole year long."
+ # So foregoing DST seems to be an exception (albeit one that may be repeated in the  future).
+ 
  # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Apr	15	23:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Nov	18	23:00s	0	-
***************
*** 811,818 ****
  Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
  # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
  # more precise 0:09:21.
  # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.
--- 884,893 ----
  Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
  # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
  # more precise 0:09:21.
  # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.


From atef at ati.tn  Wed Mar 18 14:14:48 2009
From: atef at ati.tn (Atef LOUKIL)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:14:48 +0100
Subject: proposed changes to "africa" for Morocco and Tunisia
In-Reply-To: <200903181256.n2ICuZNX008659@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
References: <200903181256.n2ICuZNX008659@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <49C101D8.3020203@ati.tn>

Yes definitely, I do confirm that from 2009 and on, Tunisia will no 
longer observe daylight saving time.
The daylight saving have been used  from 2006 till 2008 beginning on 
each last Sunday of March  at 2:00 am and ending on the last Sunday of 
October at 3:00 am.

 From 2009 and on Tunisian will no longer use daylight saving. Here is 
the link to the Tunisian press agency whom announced this :

http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=153 


Regards,

_______________________________________________________
Atef LOUKIL
Tunisian Internet Agency,
ATI-LIR&NIC Departement
13, Rue Jugurtha Mutuelleville - 1002 Tunis - Tunisia
Phone: 216 71 846 100
Fax: 216 71 846 600
http://www.ati.tn



Arthur David Olson wrote:
> Here are proposed changes to the "africa" file in the time zone package;
> these reflect changes in Morocco and Tunisia.
> If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp version on the 23rd.
>
> 				--ado
>
> ------- africa -------
> *** /tmp/geta8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
> --- /tmp/getb8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
> ***************
> *** 1,4 ****
> ! # @(#)africa	8.17
>   # <pre>
>   
>   # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
> --- 1,4 ----
> ! # @(#)africa	8.18
>   # <pre>
>   
>   # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
> ***************
> *** 564,569 ****
> --- 564,603 ----
>   # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html">
>   # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html
>   # </a>
> + 
> + # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-17):
> + # Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 according
> + # to many sources, such as
> + # <a href="http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html">
> + # http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
> + # </a>
> + # <a href="http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312">
> + # http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312
> + # </a>
> + # (French)
> + #
> + # Our summary:
> + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html">
> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
> + # </a>
> + 
> + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
> + # Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre,
> + # Ministere de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics
> + #
> + # Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967)
> + # concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of
> + # Public Sectors announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be
> + # advanced 60 minutes from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight.
> + #
> + # <a href="http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf">
> + # http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf
> + # </a>
> + #
> + # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html">
> + # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html
> + # </a>
> + 
>   # RULE	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
>   
>   Rule	Morocco	1939	only	-	Sep	12	 0:00	1:00	S
> ***************
> *** 583,588 ****
> --- 617,624 ----
>   Rule	Morocco	1978	only	-	Aug	 4	 0:00	0	-
>   Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
>   Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Sep	 1	 0:00	0	-
> + Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
> + Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Aug	 21	 0:00	0	-
>   # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
>   Zone Africa/Casablanca	-0:30:20 -	LMT	1913 Oct 26
>   			 0:00	Morocco	WE%sT	1984 Mar 16
> ***************
> *** 787,792 ****
> --- 823,865 ----
>   # Ending         : the last Sunday of October at 03:00 ...
>   # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1188&Itemid=50
>   
> + # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-16):
> + # According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year.
> + # (Arabic)
> + # <a href="http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546">
> + # http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546
> + # </a>
> + # <a href="http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp">
> + # http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp
> + # </a>
> + #
> + # We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia.
> + # We have a wrap-up about this on the following page:
> + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html">
> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html
> + # </a>
> + 
> + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
> + # Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency
> + #
> + # Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn):
> + #
> + # (in English)
> + # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157">
> + # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157
> + # </a>
> + #
> + # (in Arabic)
> + # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1">
> + # http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1
> + # </a>
> + 
> + # From Arthur David Olson (2009--3-18):
> + # The Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency notice contains this: "This measure is due to the fact
> + # that the fasting month of ramadan coincides with the period concerned by summer time.
> + # Therefore, the standard time will be kept unchanged the whole year long."
> + # So foregoing DST seems to be an exception (albeit one that may be repeated in the  future).
> + 
>   # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
>   Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Apr	15	23:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Nov	18	23:00s	0	-
> ***************
> *** 811,818 ****
>   Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
>   # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
>   # more precise 0:09:21.
>   # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.
> --- 884,893 ----
>   Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
>   # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
>   # more precise 0:09:21.
>   # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.
>
>
>   
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From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Thu Mar 19 12:50:02 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:50:02 +0100
Subject: Syria starts DST one week earlier
Message-ID: <49C23F7A.6070000@thorsen.priv.no>

Syria will start DST on 2009-03-27 00:00 this year according to many 
sources, two examples:

http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm (English, Syrian Arab 
News Agency)
http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=94459258720090318012209 
(Arabic, gov-site)

We have not found any sources saying anything about when DST ends this year.

Our summary
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html

Best regards,
Steffen Thorsen / timeanddate.com


From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Thu Mar 19 19:25:01 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:25:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March 2009
Message-ID: <loom.20090319T192401-252@post.gmane.org>

According to the Pakistan Online International News Network, 
Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March 2009.

Business Community For Switching To Daylight Saving Time From March 29, 2009 
http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=142619

or

http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_pakistan03.html

Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com



From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 19 19:46:17 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:46:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change to tz-link.htm
Message-ID: <200903191946.n2JJkHI3018602@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

The change below eliminates a dead link resulting from the
American Astronomical Society having disbanded its leap second committee.
Expect this change in the ftp version of the files this coming Monday.

				--ado

------- tz-link.htm -------
*** /tmp/geta18562	Thu Mar 19 15:44:13 2009
--- /tmp/getb18562	Thu Mar 19 15:44:13 2009
***************
*** 18,24 ****
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.16
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
--- 18,24 ----
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.17
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
***************
*** 555,561 ****
  discussed further in
  <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/time/metrologia-leapsecond.pdf">The
  leap second: its history and possible future</a>.
! The <a href="http://aas.org/policy/LeapSecondCommittee.html"><abbr
  title="American Astronomical Society">AAS</abbr> Leap Second
  Committee</a> has solicited input on this proposal.
  <a href="http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/">The
--- 555,561 ----
  discussed further in
  <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/time/metrologia-leapsecond.pdf">The
  leap second: its history and possible future</a>.
! The (now disbanded) <a href="http://members.aas.org/comms/leap.cfm"><abbr
  title="American Astronomical Society">AAS</abbr> Leap Second
  Committee</a> has solicited input on this proposal.
  <a href="http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/">The


From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 19 20:41:00 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:41:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change to "asia" time zone file (for Syria)
Message-ID: <200903192041.n2JKf0IT018951@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Below find a proposed change to the "asia" file in the time zone package to
reflect Syria's move of the start of DST in 2009. If no problems are found,
this should appear in the ftp version this coming Monday.

				--ado

------- asia -------
*** /tmp/geta18918	Thu Mar 19 16:38:56 2009
--- /tmp/getb18918	Thu Mar 19 16:38:56 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)asia	8.25
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)asia	8.26
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 1969,1976 ****
  # http://sana.sy/ara/2/2008/10/07/195459.htm
  # </a>
  
! Rule	Syria	2008	max	-	Apr	Fri>=1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule	Syria	2008	max	-	Nov	1	0:00	0	-
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Damascus	2:25:12 -	LMT	1920	# Dimashq
--- 1969,1997 ----
  # http://sana.sy/ara/2/2008/10/07/195459.htm
  # </a>
  
! # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-19):
! # Syria will start DST on 2009-03-27 00:00 this year according to many sources,
! # two examples:
! #
! # <a href="http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm">
! # http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm
! # </a>
! # (English, Syrian Arab News # Agency)
! # <a href="http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=94459258720090318012209">
! # http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=94459258720090318012209
! # </a>
! # (Arabic, gov-site)
! #
! # We have not found any sources saying anything about when DST ends this year.
! #
! # Our summary
! # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html">
! # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html
! # </a>
! 
! Rule	Syria	2008	only	-	Apr	Fri>=1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule	Syria	2008	max	-	Nov	1	0:00	0	-
+ Rule	Syria	2009	max	-	Mar	lastFri	0:00	1:00	S
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Damascus	2:25:12 -	LMT	1920	# Dimashq


From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Sun Mar 22 08:31:46 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:31:46 +0100
Subject: Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March
 2009
In-Reply-To: <loom.20090319T192401-252@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20090319T192401-252@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <49C5F772.8000206@thorsen.priv.no>

Alexander Krivenyshev wrote:
> According to the Pakistan Online International News Network, 
> Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March 2009.
>   
According to the following articles, the Pakistan Electric Power Company 
suggests to start daylight saving time on 1 April:
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14873754
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21063

Regards,
Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com


From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 23 13:47:59 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:47:59 -0400
Subject: tzcode2009d.tar.gz and tzdata2009d.tar.gz
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0564@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The files...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2009d.tar.gz
...and...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009d.tar.gz
...are now available; these reflect the Morocco, Tunisia, Argentina, and
American Astronomical Society changes circulated last week on the time
zone mailing list.

There may well be an update for Pakistan shortly; folks who want to
avoid thrashing may want to wait for tzdata2009e.tar.gz.

					--ado



From hardik at yahoo-inc.com  Wed Mar 25 18:16:04 2009
From: hardik at yahoo-inc.com (Hardik Patel)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:46:04 +0530
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
Message-ID: <9B351F55938E412E8F5A70188EA7C1C1@ds.corp.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

Where can I find revision history of changes that has happened in TZ database across given two versions?

For example, I would like to know what all changes happened from TZ version 2007g to 2008c.

I will appreciate any pointers/help regarding this.

P.S. I have not subscribed to the timezone mailing list so kindly do ?Reply All? while responding this email thread else I will not be able to receive it.

Thanks,
Hardik
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From Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com  Thu Mar 26 09:52:43 2009
From: Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com (Mueller, Marbod)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:52:43 +0100
Subject: pytz download link update
Message-ID: <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F58451224318F@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>

Hello,

it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code. Rather
it can be found at the Python Package Index 
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz

Please update the link found in http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm

Kind regards,
Marbod Mueller

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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 13:13:55 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:13:55 -0400
Subject: FW: pytz download link update
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message from Marbod Mueller, who is not on the time
zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct
replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Mueller, Marbod [mailto:Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:53
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Subject: pytz download link update

Hello, 
it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code. Rather
it can be found at the Python Package Index 
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz 
Please update the link found in http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm 
Kind regards, 
Marbod Mueller 



From stuart at stuartbishop.net  Thu Mar 26 13:58:35 2009
From: stuart at stuartbishop.net (Stuart Bishop)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:58:35 +0700 (ICT)
Subject: FW: pytz download link update
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] <olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov> wrote:

> Hello,
> it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code. Rather
> it can be found at the Python Package Index
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz
> Please update the link found in http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm
> Kind regards,
> Marbod Mueller

http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ is the current homepage.

Downloads are at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz, but there is a link on the home page for that (although it does need to be made more obvious).

-- 
Stuart Bishop <stuart at stuartbishop.net>
http://www.stuartbishop.net/

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From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Thu Mar 26 14:18:17 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:18:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Palestinian government to start DST on night March 26 and to end on night 27 September 2009
Message-ID: <loom.20090326T141550-222@post.gmane.org>

According to the Palestine News Network (arabic.pnn.ps), 
Palestinian government decided to start Daylight Time on Thursday night March 
26 and continue until the night of 27 September 2009.

(in Arabic)
http://arabic.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50850

or 
(English translation)
http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_westbank01.html


Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com  Thu Mar 26 17:03:01 2009
From: Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com (Mueller, Marbod)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:03:01 +0100
Subject: pytz download link update
In-Reply-To: <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F584512243193@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>

Hello Stuart,

yes it's all in place. 

Only, I was puzzled when following the link
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytz from twinsun and the sourceforge
download showed files from 2006.

Wouldn't it be good to change the link to point to the homepage
http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ ?

BTW, thanks for your very useful pytz package.

Kind regards,
Marbod Mueller

> _____________________________________________ 
> From: 	Stuart Bishop [mailto:stuart at stuartbishop.net] 
> Sent:	Thursday, March 26, 2009 14:59
> To:	tz at elsie.nci.nih.gov
> Cc:	tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov; Mueller, Marbod
> Subject:	Re: FW: pytz download link update
> 
> * PGP Signed by an unknown key
> 
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E]
> <olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code.
> Rather
> > it can be found at the Python Package Index
> > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz
> > Please update the link found in
> http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm
> > Kind regards,
> > Marbod Mueller
> 
> http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ is the current homepage.
> 
> Downloads are at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz, but there is a link
> on the home page for that (although it does need to be made more
> obvious).
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Bishop <stuart at stuartbishop.net>
> http://www.stuartbishop.net/
> 
> 
> * Unknown Key
> * 0xBAC6374A
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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 20:22:41 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:22:41 -0400
Subject: FW: Revision History of TZ database
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message Hardik Patel, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Hardik Patel [mailto:hardik at yahoo-inc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:16
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Cc: 'Hardik Patel'
Subject: Revision History of TZ database

Hi All,
Where can I find revision history of changes that has happened in TZ database across given two versions?
For example, I would like to know what all changes happened from TZ version 2007g to 2008c.
I will appreciate any pointers/help regarding this.
P.S. I have not subscribed to the timezone mailing list so kindly do ?Reply All? while responding this email thread else I will not be able to receive it.
Thanks,
Hardik



From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 20:32:53 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:53 -0400
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The file...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

				--ado



From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 20:32:53 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:53 -0400
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The file...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

				--ado



From autarch at urth.org  Thu Mar 26 20:36:29 2009
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:36:29 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org>

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:

> The file...
> 	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
> 	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

It would be really fantastic if the source for the database was kept in a 
publically accessible source repository of some modern variety.


-dave

/*============================================================
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From jason.cipriani at gmail.com  Thu Mar 26 20:42:06 2009
From: jason.cipriani at gmail.com (Jason Cipriani)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:42:06 -0400
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
	 <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
	 <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org>
Message-ID: <c09049bf0903261342w5b4baa99yb2e74d5d11013802@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:
>
>> The file...
>> ? ? ? ?ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
>> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the
>> 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
>> ? ? ? ?http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
>> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to
>> 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.
>
> It would be really fantastic if the source for the database was kept in a
> publically accessible source repository of some modern variety.

Agreed; and rather trivial to set up source control of some sort,
assuming you have a server to host it on (a reasonable assumption).



From autarch at urth.org  Thu Mar 26 20:48:02 2009
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:48:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <c09049bf0903261342w5b4baa99yb2e74d5d11013802@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>  <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>  <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org> <c09049bf0903261342w5b4baa99yb2e74d5d11013802@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261547300.32099@urth.org>

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Jason Cipriani wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:
>>
>>> The file...
>>> ?? ?? ?? ??ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
>>> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the
>>> 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
>>> ?? ?? ?? ??http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
>>> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to
>>> 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.
>>
>> It would be really fantastic if the source for the database was kept in a
>> publically accessible source repository of some modern variety.
>
> Agreed; and rather trivial to set up source control of some sort,
> assuming you have a server to host it on (a reasonable assumption).

There's github, bitkeeper, sourceforge, and innumerable other services.

Having a server of one's own is definitely not a requirement.


-dave

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From kre at munnari.OZ.AU  Fri Mar 27 01:33:26 2009
From: kre at munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:33:26 +0700
Subject: Revision History of TZ database 
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> 
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>  <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> 
Message-ID: <12811.1238117606@epsilon.noi.kre.to>

    Date:        Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:53 -0400
    From:        "Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E]" <olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov>
    Message-ID:  <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B at nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

  | 	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
  | ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages
  | from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub/oldtz has almost all of the tz* release files
(there are just a few missing) from the beginning (tzcode93.tar.Z) up
to now (except the current versions which are in ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub -
the same files available from elsie).

kre



From stuart at stuartbishop.net  Fri Mar 27 07:58:37 2009
From: stuart at stuartbishop.net (Stuart Bishop)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:58:37 +0700
Subject: pytz download link update
In-Reply-To: <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F584512243193@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
	 <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
	 <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F584512243193@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>
Message-ID: <6bc73d4c0903270058u2a91e469u53d603e9c67c7964@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Mueller, Marbod
<Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com> wrote:
> Hello Stuart,
>
> yes it's all in place.
>
> Only, I was puzzled when following the link
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytz from twinsun and the sourceforge
> download showed files from 2006.
>
> Wouldn't it be good to change the link to point to the homepage
> http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ ?

Yes. That would be good. The current sourceforge page being pointed to
is pretty useless.

> http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ is the current homepage.



-- 
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http://www.stuartbishop.net/


From philipp at redfish-solutions.com  Sun Mar 29 01:40:46 2009
From: philipp at redfish-solutions.com (Philip A. Prindeville)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:40:46 -0700
Subject: Generating "TZ" string from /etc/localtime?
Message-ID: <49CED19E.8020504@redfish-solutions.com>

Sorry if this is answered somewhere and I just haven't come across it.

I'm the lead developer for Astlinux:

http://www.astlinux.org

and we're using uClibc in an embedded Linux environment.  We need a way
of parsing out zoneinfo files (starting with whatever /etc/localtime
links to) and dumping out the string at the end:

I was looking in tzcode2009.tar.gz and couldn't find a function to parse
a tzfile... sort of the complement of writezone() in zic.c.

Also, are there any patches to make cross-compilation or packaging (a la
DESTDIR) easier?

Thanks,

-Philip




From sebastien at willemijns.com  Sun Mar 29 12:05:59 2009
From: sebastien at willemijns.com (Sébastien WILLEMIJNS)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:05:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Human readable DB
Message-ID: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>

Hello,

I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes:
Europe/Roma changes DST 29rd March 2009
Europe/Paris changes DST 29rd March 2009
and more and more...

Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these
infos in one page ?



From philip.newton at gmail.com  Sun Mar 29 12:28:17 2009
From: philip.newton at gmail.com (Philip Newton)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:28:17 +0200
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>
Message-ID: <537d06d00903290528y1ee20527s3c223dc9fc83216a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/3/29 S?bastien WILLEMIJNS <sebastien at willemijns.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes:
> Europe/Roma changes DST 29rd March 2009
> Europe/Paris changes DST 29rd March 2009
> and more and more...
>
> Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these
> infos in one page ?

http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst2009.html comes close, though it
uses country names (+ locations, if necessary) rather than time zone
names.

Cheers,
-- 
Philip Newton <philip.newton at gmail.com>



From HJWOUDENBERG at aol.com  Sun Mar 29 12:37:00 2009
From: HJWOUDENBERG at aol.com (HJWOUDENBERG at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:37:00 EDT
Subject: Human readable DB
Message-ID: <d0d.4e5a739d.3700c56c@aol.com>

I found a place on the Internet.  I will see if I can locate it  again.  This 
is one site but there is another
_http://home.tiscali.nl/~t876506/TZworld.html_ 
(http://home.tiscali.nl/~t876506/TZworld.html) 
It is out their.
Herman J Woudenberg
 
 
In a message dated 3/29/2009 7:22:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sebastien at willemijns.com writes:

Do you  know a software or/and online website which give me these
infos in one page  ?



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From info at weltzeituhr.com  Sun Mar 29 14:05:24 2009
From: info at weltzeituhr.com (Weltzeituhr)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:05:24 +0200
Subject: Human readable DB
Message-ID: <8CA316FFE5754A8A8A43D1DD301A7B02@weltzeituhr>

another site
http://www.weltzeituhr.com/laender/sommerzeiten_aktu_e.shtml

Regards
Klaus Marten
http://www.weltzeituhr.de

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S?bastien WILLEMIJNS" <sebastien at willemijns.com>
To: <tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 2:05 PM
Subject: Human readable DB


Hello,

I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes:
Europe/Roma changes DST 29rd March 2009
Europe/Paris changes DST 29rd March 2009
and more and more...

Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these
infos in one page ?




From jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx  Sun Mar 29 21:48:16 2009
From: jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jesper_N=F8rgaard?=)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:48:16 -0600
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>
Message-ID: <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>

Sebastien Willemijns wrote:

>I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes: Europe/Roma
changes DST 29rd March 2009 Europe/Paris 
>changes DST 29rd March 2009 and more and more...
>
>Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these infos in
one page ?

World Time Explorer is a program I made, it has a report for currently 512
distinct timezones with this format:

(254) Cuba, Havana (GMT-5) ? - Daylight Saving is active
17.24.00 Sunday 29. March 2009 -0400 EDT
DST start : 0.00.00 Sunday 8. March 2009 -0500 EST
DST end   : 1.00.00 Sunday 25. October 2009 -0400 EDT

You can sort output on Country, City, GMT offset, original order
(country+city), 
Daylight saving start date, daylight saving end date, or ISO 3-letter
country code.
Also it is possible to format the date/time format as you want. You will get
one entry for each state above for some countries though, even they are not
different this year, in other words has same GMT offset and same start and
end date.

It is 30-days shareware however, and making this report for other years than
1950 and current year requires a license. But your basic needs should be
covered for free. Note that it only runs in Windows. Download from
http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/download.html

Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen

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From Billy.Bennett at netapp.com  Mon Mar 30 02:35:59 2009
From: Billy.Bennett at netapp.com (Bennett, Billy)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:35:59 -0400
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13> <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
Message-ID: <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>

I have a php script that takes the compiled timzone file and produces a report you might find useful.  I have not published it yet, it was a project from long ago that I lost the need for so the page has not been kept up to date, but the program there  works and may meet your need.

http://timezones.foskie.com 

For example, if I give it the 2008b timezone file for new york and ask for 1991 to 2037, I get a table with:

Entry for timezone file
New_York (1267 bytes)
For 1991 through 2037
====================================
The second after          is
====================================
Apr 07, 1991 02:59:59 EDT 03:00 EDT
Oct 27, 1991 01:59:59 EDT 01:00 EST
Apr 05, 1992 01:59:59 EST 03:00 EDT
.
.
.
Nov 01, 2037 01:59:59 EDT 01:00 EST

The first line has an error, everything after that is correct.  The first line should have read 01:59:59 EST instead of 02:59:59 EDT.  

Regards,
= Billy Bennett
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesper N?rgaard [mailto:jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx] 
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:48 PM
To: TZ-list; sebastien at willemijns.com
Subject: RE: Human readable DB

Sebastien Willemijns wrote:

>I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes: 
>Europe/Roma
changes DST 29rd March 2009 Europe/Paris 
>changes DST 29rd March 2009 and more and more...
>
>Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these infos 
>in
one page ?

World Time Explorer is a program I made, it has a report for currently 512 distinct timezones with this format:

(254) Cuba, Havana (GMT-5) ? - Daylight Saving is active 17.24.00 Sunday 29. March 2009 -0400 EDT DST start : 0.00.00 Sunday 8. March 2009 -0500 EST
DST end   : 1.00.00 Sunday 25. October 2009 -0400 EDT

You can sort output on Country, City, GMT offset, original order (country+city), Daylight saving start date, daylight saving end date, or ISO 3-letter country code.
Also it is possible to format the date/time format as you want. You will get one entry for each state above for some countries though, even they are not different this year, in other words has same GMT offset and same start and end date.

It is 30-days shareware however, and making this report for other years than 1950 and current year requires a license. But your basic needs should be covered for free. Note that it only runs in Windows. Download from http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/download.html

Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen

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From dr at ez.no  Mon Mar 30 07:32:02 2009
From: dr at ez.no (Derick Rethans)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:32:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13> <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC> <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903300928350.5127@kossu.ez.no>

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Bennett, Billy wrote:

> I have a php script that takes the compiled timzone file and produces 
> a report you might find useful.  I have not published it yet, it was a 
> project from long ago that I lost the need for so the page has not 
> been kept up to date, but the program there works and may meet your 
> need.

Do you realize that PHP has this information already embedded? Since PHP 
5.1 we bundle a compressed/archive version of the Olson database and use 
it internally for all date/timezone operations. It's quite trivial to 
generate this data:

<?php
$a = new DateTimeZone( "America/New_York" );
$ts = $a->getTransitions(); 
var_dump( $ts );
?>


with kind regards,
Derick

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twitter: derickrethans


From Billy.Bennett at netapp.com  Mon Mar 30 12:19:24 2009
From: Billy.Bennett at netapp.com (Bennett, Billy)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:19:24 -0400
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903300928350.5127@kossu.ez.no>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13> <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC> <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com> <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903300928350.5127@kossu.ez.no>
Message-ID: <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062034E2@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>

Excellent!  How do I get this function to read the file a visitor
uploads, instead of just providing the information from php's separate
implementation of the zoneinfo data? I didn't think that was possible,
so I used the routines I wrote long ago for the same purpose.


Thanks,
=Billy Bennett  
Escalations Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: Derick Rethans [mailto:dr at ez.no] 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:32 AM
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Cc: TZ-list; sebastien at willemijns.com
Subject: RE: Human readable DB

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Bennett, Billy wrote:

> I have a php script that takes the compiled timzone file and produces 
> a report you might find useful.  I have not published it yet, it was a

> project from long ago that I lost the need for so the page has not 
> been kept up to date, but the program there works and may meet your 
> need.

Do you realize that PHP has this information already embedded? Since PHP
5.1 we bundle a compressed/archive version of the Olson database and use
it internally for all date/timezone operations. It's quite trivial to
generate this data:

<?php
$a = new DateTimeZone( "America/New_York" ); $ts = $a->getTransitions();
var_dump( $ts ); ?>


with kind regards,
Derick

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twitter: derickrethans




From baby at baby.com.ar  Mon Mar 30 14:34:26 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:34:26 -0300
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <49D0D872.1010605@baby.com.ar>

Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] escribi? el 26/03/09 17:32:
> The file...
> 	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
> 	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.
>   
To download old versions of tzcode and tzdata, I'd rather use 
ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub/oldtz/ (which is already linked in 
http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm).

It goes back to tzcode93/tzdata93b and seems to be more up to date, 
since the newest tzdata is 2009c (and osuosl.org newest one is 2009a).

Regards.

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From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Tue Mar 31 18:49:34 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:49:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed time zone package changes for Palestine, pytz home page
Message-ID: <200903311849.n2VInYvZ025683@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Below are two proposed time zone packages changes, the first to the "asia" file
to reflect Palestine's change this year in the start and en of DST and the
second to the tz-link.htm file to reflect the change in the pytz home page.

If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp directory this
coming Monday.

				--ado

------- asia -------
*** /tmp/geta25630	Tue Mar 31 14:46:47 2009
--- /tmp/getb25630	Tue Mar 31 14:46:47 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)asia	8.26
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)asia	8.27
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 1695,1700 ****
--- 1695,1716 ----
  # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_gazastrip01.html
  # </a>
  
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-26):
+ # According to the Palestine News Network (arabic.pnn.ps), Palestinian
+ # government decided to start Daylight Time on Thursday night March
+ # 26 and continue until the night of 27 September 2009.
+ #
+ # (in Arabic)
+ # <a href="http://arabic.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50850">
+ # http://arabic.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50850
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # or
+ # (English translation)
+ # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_westbank01.html">
+ # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_westbank01.html
+ # </a>
+ 
  # The rules for Egypt are stolen from the `africa' file.
  # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  Rule EgyptAsia	1957	only	-	May	10	0:00	1:00	S
***************
*** 1708,1717 ****
  Rule Palestine	1999	2003	-	Oct	Fri>=15	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2004	only	-	Oct	 1	1:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2005	only	-	Oct	 4	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2006	max	-	Apr	 1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule Palestine	2006	only	-	Sep	22	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2007	only	-	Sep	Thu>=8	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2008	max	-	Aug	lastThu	2:00	0	-
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Gaza	2:17:52	-	LMT	1900 Oct
--- 1724,1735 ----
  Rule Palestine	1999	2003	-	Oct	Fri>=15	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2004	only	-	Oct	 1	1:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2005	only	-	Oct	 4	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2006	2008	-	Apr	 1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule Palestine	2006	only	-	Sep	22	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2007	only	-	Sep	Thu>=8	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2008	only	-	Aug	lastThu	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2009	max	-	Mar	lastThu	0:00	1:00	S
! Rule Palestine	2009	max	-	Sep	lastSun	2:00	0	-
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Gaza	2:17:52	-	LMT	1900 Oct

------- tz-link.htm -------
*** /tmp/geta25650	Tue Mar 31 14:46:58 2009
--- /tmp/getb25650	Tue Mar 31 14:46:58 2009
***************
*** 18,24 ****
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.17
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
--- 18,24 ----
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.18
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
***************
*** 218,224 ****
  <code>org.joda.time.tz.ZoneInfoCompiler</code> that compiles
  <code>tz</code> source into a Joda-specific binary format. Joda Time
  is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>
! <li><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytz">PyTZ - Python Time
  Zone Library</a> compiles <code>tz</code> source into
  <a href="http://python.org/">Python</a>.
  It is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>
--- 218,224 ----
  <code>org.joda.time.tz.ZoneInfoCompiler</code> that compiles
  <code>tz</code> source into a Joda-specific binary format. Joda Time
  is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>
! <li><a href="http://pytz.sourceforge.net">PyTZ - Python Time
  Zone Library</a> compiles <code>tz</code> source into
  <a href="http://python.org/">Python</a>.
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From mir at pax.apana.org.au  Tue Mar  3 11:20:09 2009
From: mir at pax.apana.org.au (Mirko Fluher)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:20:09 +1100
Subject: tzdata2009b
Message-ID: <20090303112009.GA22067@pax.apana.org.au>

The file tzdata2009b.tar.gz needs to be updated to reflect the new 
daylight saving of Australia/Victoria ... now moving from March to the first
Sunday in April see:

http://www.vic.gov.au/news-detail/daylight-saving-has-changed.html

Thank you!
Cheers,

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From mir at pax.apana.org.au  Tue Mar  3 11:54:17 2009
From: mir at pax.apana.org.au (Mirko Fluher)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:54:17 +1100
Subject: ooppsss... 
Message-ID: <20090303115417.GA22321@pax.apana.org.au>

sorry ... ignore my previous message .. 
the current tzdata file is ok for Australia/Victoria !

Cheers,

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From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Wed Mar  4 16:35:20 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:35:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Cuba will start DST on midnight between March 07, 2009 and March 08, 2009
Message-ID: <loom.20090304T163314-793@post.gmane.org>

According to the Radio Reloj - Cuba will start Daylight Saving Time on midnight 
between Saturday, March 07, 2009 and Sunday, March 08, 2009-
not on midnight March 14 / March 15 as previously thought.

http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html
(in Spanish)


Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar  9 14:31:49 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:31:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change to northamerica file in time zone package for Cuba
Message-ID: <200903091431.n29EVnZP029564@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Having checked this morning on Cuba having actually switched,
here's a proposed change to the "northamerica" file.
Assuming no problems are found, expect this version to hit the ftp site
in a week.

				--ado

------- northamerica -------
*** /tmp/geta29524	Mon Mar  9 10:29:36 2009
--- /tmp/getb29524	Mon Mar  9 10:29:36 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)northamerica	8.26
  # <pre>
  
  # also includes Central America and the Caribbean
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)northamerica	8.27
  # <pre>
  
  # also includes Central America and the Caribbean
***************
*** 2258,2263 ****
--- 2258,2282 ----
  # From Arthur David Olson (2008-03-12):
  # Assume Sun>=15 (third Sunday) going forward.
  
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-04)
+ # According to the Radio Reloj - Cuba will start Daylight Saving Time on
+ # midnight between Saturday, March 07, 2009 and Sunday, March 08, 2009-
+ # not on midnight March 14 / March 15 as previously thought.
+ #
+ # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html">
+ # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html
+ # (in Spanish)
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Arthur David Olson (2009-03-09)
+ # I listened over the Internet to
+ # <a href="http://media.enet.cu/readioreloj">
+ # http://media.enet.cu/readioreloj
+ # </a>
+ # this morning; when it was 10:05 a. m. here in Bethesda, Maryland the
+ # the time was announced as "diez cinco"--the same time as here, indicating
+ # that has indeed switched to DST. Assume second Sunday from 2009 forward.
+ 
  # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  Rule	Cuba	1928	only	-	Jun	10	0:00	1:00	D
  Rule	Cuba	1928	only	-	Oct	10	0:00	0	S
***************
*** 2290,2296 ****
  Rule	Cuba	2000	2004	-	Apr	Sun>=1	0:00s	1:00	D
  Rule	Cuba	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	0:00s	0	S
  Rule	Cuba	2007	only	-	Mar	Sun>=8	0:00s	1:00	D
! Rule	Cuba	2008	max	-	Mar	Sun>=15	0:00s	1:00	D
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	America/Havana	-5:29:28 -	LMT	1890
--- 2309,2316 ----
  Rule	Cuba	2000	2004	-	Apr	Sun>=1	0:00s	1:00	D
  Rule	Cuba	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	0:00s	0	S
  Rule	Cuba	2007	only	-	Mar	Sun>=8	0:00s	1:00	D
! Rule	Cuba	2008	only	-	Mar	Sun>=15	0:00s	1:00	D
! Rule	Cuba	2009	max	-	Mar	Sun>=8	0:00s	1:00	D
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	America/Havana	-5:29:28 -	LMT	1890


From baby at baby.com.ar  Fri Mar 13 10:38:34 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:38:34 -0200
Subject: Last minute change for the Province of San Luis (Argentina)
Message-ID: <49BA37AA.2050708@baby.com.ar>

Hi,

yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis decided 
that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go to 
utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October...

The press release is at 
http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102 
(I couldn't find the decree, but www.sanluis.gov.ar is the official page 
for the Province Government).

There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La Naci?n) 
at http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912

I'll try to write a patch to southamerica and send it right away.

-- 
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baby at baby.com.ar
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From baby at baby.com.ar  Fri Mar 13 11:03:40 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:03:40 -0200
Subject: Last minute change for the Province of San Luis (Argentina)
In-Reply-To: <49BA37AA.2050708@baby.com.ar>
References: <49BA37AA.2050708@baby.com.ar>
Message-ID: <49BA3D8C.8040809@baby.com.ar>

Mariano Absatz - El Baby escribi? el 13/03/09 08:38:
> yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis 
> decided that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go 
> to utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October...
>
> The press release is at 
> http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102 
> (I couldn't find the decree, but www.sanluis.gov.ar is the official 
> page for the Province Government).
>
> There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La 
> Naci?n) at http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912
>
> I'll try to write a patch to southamerica and send it right away.
The press release says:
> (...) anunci? que el pr?ximo domingo a las 00:00 los puntanos deber?n 
> atrasar una hora sus relojes.
>  
> A partir de entonces, San Luis establecer? el huso horario propio de 
> la Provincia. De esta manera, durante el periodo del calendario anual 
> 2009, el cambio horario quedar? comprendido entre las 00:00 del tercer 
> domingo de marzo y las 24:00 del segundo s?bado de octubre.
Quick&dirty translation
> (...) announced that next Sunday, at 00:00, Puntanos (the San Luis 
> inhabitants) will have to turn back one hour their clocks
>
> Since then, San Luis will establish its own Province timezone. Thus, 
> during 2009, this timezone change will run from 00:00 the third Sunday 
> in March until 24:00 of the second Saturday in October.

Attached is a patch that implements just that only for 2009, and then 
leaves the Province fixed at UTC-03:00.

Regards.



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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 14:00:14 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:00:14 -0400
Subject: tzdata2009c.tar.gz
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0534@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The file...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009c.tar.gz
...is now available; this reflects the change to the start of Cuban DST
circulated last week on the time zone mailing list.

I'm holding off on a San Luis (Argentina) change pending investigation
of whether they plan to switch clocks every year.

					--ado



From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 14:32:23 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:32:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change for San Luis
Message-ID: <200903161432.n2GEWND3000925@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Below is a proposed change for San Luis, reflecting the claim that the province will be observing standard Argentine DST in the future.
Barring negative comments, this change will appear in the ftp version in a week.

				--ado

------- southamerica -------
*** /tmp/geta878	Mon Mar 16 10:29:25 2009
--- /tmp/getb878	Mon Mar 16 10:29:25 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)southamerica	8.33
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)southamerica	8.34
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 351,357 ****
--- 351,401 ----
  # keep America/Cordoba a single region rather than splitting it into the
  # other 5 subregions.
  
+ # From Mariano Absatz (2009-03-13):
+ # Yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis
+ # decided that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go
+ # to utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October...
  #
+ # The press release is at
+ # <a href="http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102">
+ # http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102
+ # </a>
+ # (I couldn't find the decree, but
+ # <a href="http://www.sanluis.gov.ar">
+ # www.sanluis.gov.ar
+ # <a/>
+ # is the official page for the Province Government).
+ #
+ # There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La Naci?n) at
+ # <a href="http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912">
+ # http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912
+ # </a>
+ # 
+ # The press release says:
+ #  (...) anunci? que el pr?ximo domingo a las 00:00 los puntanos deber?n
+ # atrasar una hora sus relojes.
+ #
+ # A partir de entonces, San Luis establecer? el huso horario propio de
+ # la Provincia. De esta manera, durante el periodo del calendario anual
+ # 2009, el cambio horario quedar? comprendido entre las 00:00 del tercer
+ # domingo de marzo y las 24:00 del segundo s?bado de octubre.
+ # Quick&dirty translation
+ # (...) announced that next Sunday, at 00:00, Puntanos (the San Luis
+ # inhabitants) will have to turn back one hour their clocks
+ #
+ # Since then, San Luis will establish its own Province timezone. Thus,
+ # during 2009, this timezone change will run from 00:00 the third Sunday
+ # in March until 24:00 of the second Saturday in October.
+ 
+ # From Arthur David Olson (2009-03-16):
+ # The unofficial claim at
+ # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/san-luis-new-time-zone.html">
+ # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/san-luis-new-time-zone.html
+ # </a>
+ # is that "The province will most likely follow the next daylight saving schedule,
+ # which is planned for the second Sunday in October."
+ 
+ #
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  #
  # Buenos Aires (BA), Capital Federal (CF),
***************
*** 498,504 ****
  			-3:00	-	ART	2004 May 31
  			-4:00	-	WART	2004 Jul 25
  			-3:00	Arg	AR%sT	2008 Jan 21
! 			-3:00	-	ART
  #
  # Santa Cruz (SC)
  Zone America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos -4:36:52 - LMT 1894 Oct 31
--- 542,549 ----
  			-3:00	-	ART	2004 May 31
  			-4:00	-	WART	2004 Jul 25
  			-3:00	Arg	AR%sT	2008 Jan 21
! 			-3:00	-	ART	2009 Mar 15
! 			-4:00	Arg	WAR%sT
  #
  # Santa Cruz (SC)
  Zone America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos -4:36:52 - LMT 1894 Oct 31


From nazabal at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 14:57:17 2009
From: nazabal at gmail.com (Norberto Nazabal)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:57:17 -0300
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <4b06bbe40903160757n28f7fe45l75b8d0b556762555@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

First, let me thank to all of you for your excellent work maintaining the
time zone database.
I'm user of several programs using your database as source and I want to add
a new time zone for San Luis, Argentina because currently we are using a
different time zone that all the rest of the country.
This is the link for the local law (spanish) that define the new time zone:
http://ministerios.sanluis.gov.ar/res/media/pdf/18459.doc
Basically the law says:
1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of
October to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of April.
2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of
April to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of October.

I hope this can help you to include these changes in your database to be
able to select the correct time zone for my State.

Thanks,

Norberto Nazabal
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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 14:59:52 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:59:52 -0400
Subject: FW: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0538@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message from Norberto Nazabal, who is not on the
time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct
replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:58
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina

Hi all,

First, let me thank to all of you for your excellent work maintaining
the time zone database.
I'm user of several programs using your database as source and I want to
add a new time zone for San Luis, Argentina because currently we are
using a different time zone that all the rest of the country.
This is the link for the local law (spanish) that define the new time
zone: http://ministerios.sanluis.gov.ar/res/media/pdf/18459.doc
Basically the law says:
1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour from the second
Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of April.
2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour from the second
Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of October.

I hope this can help you to include these changes in your database to be
able to select the correct time zone for my State.

Thanks,

Norberto Nazabal



From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Mon Mar 16 16:43:53 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:43:53 +0100
Subject: Tunisia cancels DST
Message-ID: <49BE81C9.6010507@thorsen.priv.no>

According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year.
(Arabic)
http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546
http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp

We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia.
We have a wrap-up about this on the following page:
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html

Regards,
Steffen Thorsen / timeanddate.com


From jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx  Mon Mar 16 18:45:41 2009
From: jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jesper_N=F8rgaard?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:45:41 -0600
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <000001c9a667$6d2392e0$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>

Norberto Nazabal wrote:

>Basically the law says:

>1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of
October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April.

>2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of
April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.

I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was
published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains
serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so
long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following
the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press
conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?

The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second
Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second
Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining
two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this
is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the
24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00
hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where
the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th.
of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday).
So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from
2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from
2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??

The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in
a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The
future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different,
Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18
00:00:00.

Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen


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From nazabal at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 19:18:47 2009
From: nazabal at gmail.com (Norberto Nazabal)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:18:47 -0300
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
In-Reply-To: <000001c9a667$6d2392e0$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
References: <000001c9a667$6d2392e0$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
Message-ID: <4b06bbe40903161218j6ed369berf6ea5ff7912d045f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jesper,

Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using
the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00.
I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I
will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that
information.
Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time
zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of
which time zone we will use.

Regards,

Norberto Nazabal.


2009/3/16 Jesper N?rgaard <jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx>

>  Norberto Nazabal wrote:
>
> >Basically the law says:
>
> >1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday
> of October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April.
>
> >2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday
> of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.
>
> I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was
> published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains
> serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so
> long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following
> the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press
> conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?
>
> The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second
> Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second
> Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining
> two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this
> is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the
> 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00
> hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where
> the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th.
> of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday).
> So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from
> 2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from
> 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??
>
> The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree
> in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed.
> The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different,
> Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18
> 00:00:00.
>
> Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen
>
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG.
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> 2009-03-15 14:07
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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 19:19:55 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:19:55 -0400
Subject: FW: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A053B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message from NorbertoNazabal, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:19
To: Jesper N?rgaard
Cc: TZ-list
Subject: Re: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina

Hi Jesper,

Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00.
I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that information.
Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of which time zone we will use.

Regards,

Norberto Nazabal.

2009/3/16 Jesper N?rgaard <jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx>
Norberto Nazabal wrote:
>Basically the law says:
>1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour?of the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the second?Saturday of April.
>2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour?of the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.
I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was published?already back in December 2008. However this definition contains serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST?instead with a frantic press conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?
The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always?the same time as the Second Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00 hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th. of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday). So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from 2011-10-09 00:00:00?to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??
The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different, Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18 00:00:00.
Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen

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From baby at baby.com.ar  Mon Mar 16 22:10:17 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:10:17 -0300
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A053B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A053B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <49BECE49.9040403@baby.com.ar>

Hi,

Jesper is right in what he notes regarding the inconsistency of 2nd 
Saturday @24:00 vs. 2nd Sunday @00:00.

It is weird that, even when San Luis is having its own timezone for the 
winter, they also have their own algorithm for changing... in their 
favor, the National Government is NOT defining in advance what algorithm 
they will use next year, so that they could decide every year a 
different rule :-(

Norberto,

please, if you can contact someone responsible within the Provincial 
Government, try to explain to them the problem and what would they do in 
April 2012 that is the first time the rule will fail (I bet they'll say 
that they will eventually check that in 2011 or later)... don't expect 
them to understand the problem (although it might be easier that someone 
does understand in San Luis than in Buenos Aires).

Don't hesitate to write directly to me in Spanish if you'd rather I 
translate or forward your messages to the list, either at this address 
or, better yet, at "el PUNTO baby ARROBA gmail PUNTO com".

If you need help, drop me a line in private and we can talk over the phone.

Regards, and very nice to see there's someone else in Argentina worrying 
about this :-)


Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] escribi? el 16/03/09 16:19:
> I'm forwarding this message from NorbertoNazabal, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately.
>
> 				--ado
>
> From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:19
> To: Jesper N?rgaard
> Cc: TZ-list
> Subject: Re: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
>
> Hi Jesper,
>
> Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00.
> I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that information.
> Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of which time zone we will use.
>
> Regards,
>
> Norberto Nazabal.
>
> 2009/3/16 Jesper N?rgaard <jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx>
> Norberto Nazabal wrote:
>   
>> Basically the law says:
>> 1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April.
>> 2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.
>>     
> I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?
> The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00 hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th. of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday). So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from 2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??
> The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different, Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18 00:00:00.
> Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen
>   

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From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Tue Mar 17 10:32:53 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:32:53 +0100
Subject: Morocco to observe DST in 2009
Message-ID: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no>

Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 
according to many sources, such as
http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French)

Our summary:
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html

Best regards,
Steffen / timeanddate.com


From ygoraly at gmail.com  Tue Mar 17 17:08:40 2009
From: ygoraly at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?15nXotecINeS15XXqNec15k=?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:08:40 +0200
Subject: Morocco to observe DST in 2009
In-Reply-To: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no>
References: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no>
Message-ID: <24c7744e0903171008g54ea385dw621758d1ba055ace@mail.gmail.com>

DST starts on July 1 at midnight - GMT+1
DST ends on August 20 at 23:00

I verified Tunisia.


On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Steffen Thorsen <straen at thorsen.priv.no>wrote:

> Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00
> according to many sources, such as
> http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
> http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French)
>
> Our summary:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
>
> Best regards,
> Steffen / timeanddate.com
>
>
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From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Tue Mar 17 17:59:05 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:59:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Morocco to observe DST in 2009- link to official document
References: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no> <24c7744e0903171008g54ea385dw621758d1ba055ace@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20090317T175806-11@post.gmane.org>

??? ????? <ygoraly <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> DST starts on July 1 at midnight - GMT+1DST ends on August 20 at 23:00I 
verified Tunisia.On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Steffen Thorsen <straen <at> 
thorsen.priv.no> wrote:Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-
08-21 00:00 according to many sources, such 
ashttp://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-
saving.htmlhttp://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French)
> Our summary:http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
> Best regards,
> Steffen / timeanddate.com


Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre, 
Minist?re de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics 

Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967) 
concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of 
Public Sectors 
announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be advanced 60 minutes 
from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight.

http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf

http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html

Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Tue Mar 17 18:07:51 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:07:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Tunisia cancels DST- links to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency
References: <49BE81C9.6010507@thorsen.priv.no>
Message-ID: <loom.20090317T180633-600@post.gmane.org>

Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency

Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn):

(in English)
http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157

(in Arabic)
http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1

Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Wed Mar 18 12:56:35 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:56:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed changes to "africa" for Morocco and Tunisia
Message-ID: <200903181256.n2ICuZNX008659@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Here are proposed changes to the "africa" file in the time zone package;
these reflect changes in Morocco and Tunisia.
If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp version on the 23rd.

				--ado

------- africa -------
*** /tmp/geta8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
--- /tmp/getb8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)africa	8.17
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)africa	8.18
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 564,569 ****
--- 564,603 ----
  # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html">
  # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html
  # </a>
+ 
+ # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-17):
+ # Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 according
+ # to many sources, such as
+ # <a href="http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html">
+ # http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
+ # </a>
+ # <a href="http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312">
+ # http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312
+ # </a>
+ # (French)
+ #
+ # Our summary:
+ # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html">
+ # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
+ # Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre,
+ # Ministere de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics
+ #
+ # Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967)
+ # concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of
+ # Public Sectors announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be
+ # advanced 60 minutes from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight.
+ #
+ # <a href="http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf">
+ # http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html">
+ # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html
+ # </a>
+ 
  # RULE	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  
  Rule	Morocco	1939	only	-	Sep	12	 0:00	1:00	S
***************
*** 583,588 ****
--- 617,624 ----
  Rule	Morocco	1978	only	-	Aug	 4	 0:00	0	-
  Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
  Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Sep	 1	 0:00	0	-
+ Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
+ Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Aug	 21	 0:00	0	-
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone Africa/Casablanca	-0:30:20 -	LMT	1913 Oct 26
  			 0:00	Morocco	WE%sT	1984 Mar 16
***************
*** 787,792 ****
--- 823,865 ----
  # Ending         : the last Sunday of October at 03:00 ...
  # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1188&Itemid=50
  
+ # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-16):
+ # According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year.
+ # (Arabic)
+ # <a href="http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546">
+ # http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546
+ # </a>
+ # <a href="http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp">
+ # http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia.
+ # We have a wrap-up about this on the following page:
+ # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html">
+ # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
+ # Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency
+ #
+ # Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn):
+ #
+ # (in English)
+ # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157">
+ # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # (in Arabic)
+ # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1">
+ # http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Arthur David Olson (2009--3-18):
+ # The Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency notice contains this: "This measure is due to the fact
+ # that the fasting month of ramadan coincides with the period concerned by summer time.
+ # Therefore, the standard time will be kept unchanged the whole year long."
+ # So foregoing DST seems to be an exception (albeit one that may be repeated in the  future).
+ 
  # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Apr	15	23:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Nov	18	23:00s	0	-
***************
*** 811,818 ****
  Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
  # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
  # more precise 0:09:21.
  # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.
--- 884,893 ----
  Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
  # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
  # more precise 0:09:21.
  # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.


From atef at ati.tn  Wed Mar 18 14:14:48 2009
From: atef at ati.tn (Atef LOUKIL)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:14:48 +0100
Subject: proposed changes to "africa" for Morocco and Tunisia
In-Reply-To: <200903181256.n2ICuZNX008659@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
References: <200903181256.n2ICuZNX008659@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <49C101D8.3020203@ati.tn>

Yes definitely, I do confirm that from 2009 and on, Tunisia will no 
longer observe daylight saving time.
The daylight saving have been used  from 2006 till 2008 beginning on 
each last Sunday of March  at 2:00 am and ending on the last Sunday of 
October at 3:00 am.

 From 2009 and on Tunisian will no longer use daylight saving. Here is 
the link to the Tunisian press agency whom announced this :

http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=153 


Regards,

_______________________________________________________
Atef LOUKIL
Tunisian Internet Agency,
ATI-LIR&NIC Departement
13, Rue Jugurtha Mutuelleville - 1002 Tunis - Tunisia
Phone: 216 71 846 100
Fax: 216 71 846 600
http://www.ati.tn



Arthur David Olson wrote:
> Here are proposed changes to the "africa" file in the time zone package;
> these reflect changes in Morocco and Tunisia.
> If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp version on the 23rd.
>
> 				--ado
>
> ------- africa -------
> *** /tmp/geta8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
> --- /tmp/getb8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
> ***************
> *** 1,4 ****
> ! # @(#)africa	8.17
>   # <pre>
>   
>   # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
> --- 1,4 ----
> ! # @(#)africa	8.18
>   # <pre>
>   
>   # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
> ***************
> *** 564,569 ****
> --- 564,603 ----
>   # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html">
>   # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html
>   # </a>
> + 
> + # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-17):
> + # Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 according
> + # to many sources, such as
> + # <a href="http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html">
> + # http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
> + # </a>
> + # <a href="http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312">
> + # http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312
> + # </a>
> + # (French)
> + #
> + # Our summary:
> + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html">
> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
> + # </a>
> + 
> + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
> + # Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre,
> + # Ministere de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics
> + #
> + # Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967)
> + # concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of
> + # Public Sectors announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be
> + # advanced 60 minutes from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight.
> + #
> + # <a href="http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf">
> + # http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf
> + # </a>
> + #
> + # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html">
> + # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html
> + # </a>
> + 
>   # RULE	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
>   
>   Rule	Morocco	1939	only	-	Sep	12	 0:00	1:00	S
> ***************
> *** 583,588 ****
> --- 617,624 ----
>   Rule	Morocco	1978	only	-	Aug	 4	 0:00	0	-
>   Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
>   Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Sep	 1	 0:00	0	-
> + Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
> + Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Aug	 21	 0:00	0	-
>   # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
>   Zone Africa/Casablanca	-0:30:20 -	LMT	1913 Oct 26
>   			 0:00	Morocco	WE%sT	1984 Mar 16
> ***************
> *** 787,792 ****
> --- 823,865 ----
>   # Ending         : the last Sunday of October at 03:00 ...
>   # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1188&Itemid=50
>   
> + # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-16):
> + # According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year.
> + # (Arabic)
> + # <a href="http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546">
> + # http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546
> + # </a>
> + # <a href="http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp">
> + # http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp
> + # </a>
> + #
> + # We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia.
> + # We have a wrap-up about this on the following page:
> + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html">
> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html
> + # </a>
> + 
> + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
> + # Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency
> + #
> + # Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn):
> + #
> + # (in English)
> + # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157">
> + # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157
> + # </a>
> + #
> + # (in Arabic)
> + # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1">
> + # http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1
> + # </a>
> + 
> + # From Arthur David Olson (2009--3-18):
> + # The Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency notice contains this: "This measure is due to the fact
> + # that the fasting month of ramadan coincides with the period concerned by summer time.
> + # Therefore, the standard time will be kept unchanged the whole year long."
> + # So foregoing DST seems to be an exception (albeit one that may be repeated in the  future).
> + 
>   # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
>   Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Apr	15	23:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Nov	18	23:00s	0	-
> ***************
> *** 811,818 ****
>   Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
>   # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
>   # more precise 0:09:21.
>   # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.
> --- 884,893 ----
>   Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
>   # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
>   # more precise 0:09:21.
>   # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.
>
>
>   
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From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Thu Mar 19 12:50:02 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:50:02 +0100
Subject: Syria starts DST one week earlier
Message-ID: <49C23F7A.6070000@thorsen.priv.no>

Syria will start DST on 2009-03-27 00:00 this year according to many 
sources, two examples:

http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm (English, Syrian Arab 
News Agency)
http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=94459258720090318012209 
(Arabic, gov-site)

We have not found any sources saying anything about when DST ends this year.

Our summary
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html

Best regards,
Steffen Thorsen / timeanddate.com


From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Thu Mar 19 19:25:01 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:25:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March 2009
Message-ID: <loom.20090319T192401-252@post.gmane.org>

According to the Pakistan Online International News Network, 
Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March 2009.

Business Community For Switching To Daylight Saving Time From March 29, 2009 
http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=142619

or

http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_pakistan03.html

Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com



From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 19 19:46:17 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:46:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change to tz-link.htm
Message-ID: <200903191946.n2JJkHI3018602@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

The change below eliminates a dead link resulting from the
American Astronomical Society having disbanded its leap second committee.
Expect this change in the ftp version of the files this coming Monday.

				--ado

------- tz-link.htm -------
*** /tmp/geta18562	Thu Mar 19 15:44:13 2009
--- /tmp/getb18562	Thu Mar 19 15:44:13 2009
***************
*** 18,24 ****
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.16
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
--- 18,24 ----
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.17
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
***************
*** 555,561 ****
  discussed further in
  <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/time/metrologia-leapsecond.pdf">The
  leap second: its history and possible future</a>.
! The <a href="http://aas.org/policy/LeapSecondCommittee.html"><abbr
  title="American Astronomical Society">AAS</abbr> Leap Second
  Committee</a> has solicited input on this proposal.
  <a href="http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/">The
--- 555,561 ----
  discussed further in
  <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/time/metrologia-leapsecond.pdf">The
  leap second: its history and possible future</a>.
! The (now disbanded) <a href="http://members.aas.org/comms/leap.cfm"><abbr
  title="American Astronomical Society">AAS</abbr> Leap Second
  Committee</a> has solicited input on this proposal.
  <a href="http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/">The


From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 19 20:41:00 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:41:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change to "asia" time zone file (for Syria)
Message-ID: <200903192041.n2JKf0IT018951@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Below find a proposed change to the "asia" file in the time zone package to
reflect Syria's move of the start of DST in 2009. If no problems are found,
this should appear in the ftp version this coming Monday.

				--ado

------- asia -------
*** /tmp/geta18918	Thu Mar 19 16:38:56 2009
--- /tmp/getb18918	Thu Mar 19 16:38:56 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)asia	8.25
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)asia	8.26
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 1969,1976 ****
  # http://sana.sy/ara/2/2008/10/07/195459.htm
  # </a>
  
! Rule	Syria	2008	max	-	Apr	Fri>=1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule	Syria	2008	max	-	Nov	1	0:00	0	-
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Damascus	2:25:12 -	LMT	1920	# Dimashq
--- 1969,1997 ----
  # http://sana.sy/ara/2/2008/10/07/195459.htm
  # </a>
  
! # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-19):
! # Syria will start DST on 2009-03-27 00:00 this year according to many sources,
! # two examples:
! #
! # <a href="http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm">
! # http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm
! # </a>
! # (English, Syrian Arab News # Agency)
! # <a href="http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=94459258720090318012209">
! # http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=94459258720090318012209
! # </a>
! # (Arabic, gov-site)
! #
! # We have not found any sources saying anything about when DST ends this year.
! #
! # Our summary
! # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html">
! # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html
! # </a>
! 
! Rule	Syria	2008	only	-	Apr	Fri>=1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule	Syria	2008	max	-	Nov	1	0:00	0	-
+ Rule	Syria	2009	max	-	Mar	lastFri	0:00	1:00	S
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Damascus	2:25:12 -	LMT	1920	# Dimashq


From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Sun Mar 22 08:31:46 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:31:46 +0100
Subject: Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March
 2009
In-Reply-To: <loom.20090319T192401-252@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20090319T192401-252@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <49C5F772.8000206@thorsen.priv.no>

Alexander Krivenyshev wrote:
> According to the Pakistan Online International News Network, 
> Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March 2009.
>   
According to the following articles, the Pakistan Electric Power Company 
suggests to start daylight saving time on 1 April:
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14873754
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21063

Regards,
Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com


From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 23 13:47:59 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:47:59 -0400
Subject: tzcode2009d.tar.gz and tzdata2009d.tar.gz
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0564@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The files...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2009d.tar.gz
...and...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009d.tar.gz
...are now available; these reflect the Morocco, Tunisia, Argentina, and
American Astronomical Society changes circulated last week on the time
zone mailing list.

There may well be an update for Pakistan shortly; folks who want to
avoid thrashing may want to wait for tzdata2009e.tar.gz.

					--ado



From hardik at yahoo-inc.com  Wed Mar 25 18:16:04 2009
From: hardik at yahoo-inc.com (Hardik Patel)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:46:04 +0530
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
Message-ID: <9B351F55938E412E8F5A70188EA7C1C1@ds.corp.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

Where can I find revision history of changes that has happened in TZ database across given two versions?

For example, I would like to know what all changes happened from TZ version 2007g to 2008c.

I will appreciate any pointers/help regarding this.

P.S. I have not subscribed to the timezone mailing list so kindly do ?Reply All? while responding this email thread else I will not be able to receive it.

Thanks,
Hardik
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From Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com  Thu Mar 26 09:52:43 2009
From: Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com (Mueller, Marbod)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:52:43 +0100
Subject: pytz download link update
Message-ID: <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F58451224318F@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>

Hello,

it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code. Rather
it can be found at the Python Package Index 
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz

Please update the link found in http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm

Kind regards,
Marbod Mueller

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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 13:13:55 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:13:55 -0400
Subject: FW: pytz download link update
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message from Marbod Mueller, who is not on the time
zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct
replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Mueller, Marbod [mailto:Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:53
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Subject: pytz download link update

Hello, 
it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code. Rather
it can be found at the Python Package Index 
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz 
Please update the link found in http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm 
Kind regards, 
Marbod Mueller 



From stuart at stuartbishop.net  Thu Mar 26 13:58:35 2009
From: stuart at stuartbishop.net (Stuart Bishop)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:58:35 +0700 (ICT)
Subject: FW: pytz download link update
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] <olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov> wrote:

> Hello,
> it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code. Rather
> it can be found at the Python Package Index
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz
> Please update the link found in http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm
> Kind regards,
> Marbod Mueller

http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ is the current homepage.

Downloads are at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz, but there is a link on the home page for that (although it does need to be made more obvious).

-- 
Stuart Bishop <stuart at stuartbishop.net>
http://www.stuartbishop.net/

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From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Thu Mar 26 14:18:17 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:18:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Palestinian government to start DST on night March 26 and to end on night 27 September 2009
Message-ID: <loom.20090326T141550-222@post.gmane.org>

According to the Palestine News Network (arabic.pnn.ps), 
Palestinian government decided to start Daylight Time on Thursday night March 
26 and continue until the night of 27 September 2009.

(in Arabic)
http://arabic.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50850

or 
(English translation)
http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_westbank01.html


Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com  Thu Mar 26 17:03:01 2009
From: Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com (Mueller, Marbod)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:03:01 +0100
Subject: pytz download link update
In-Reply-To: <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F584512243193@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>

Hello Stuart,

yes it's all in place. 

Only, I was puzzled when following the link
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytz from twinsun and the sourceforge
download showed files from 2006.

Wouldn't it be good to change the link to point to the homepage
http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ ?

BTW, thanks for your very useful pytz package.

Kind regards,
Marbod Mueller

> _____________________________________________ 
> From: 	Stuart Bishop [mailto:stuart at stuartbishop.net] 
> Sent:	Thursday, March 26, 2009 14:59
> To:	tz at elsie.nci.nih.gov
> Cc:	tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov; Mueller, Marbod
> Subject:	Re: FW: pytz download link update
> 
> * PGP Signed by an unknown key
> 
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E]
> <olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code.
> Rather
> > it can be found at the Python Package Index
> > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz
> > Please update the link found in
> http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm
> > Kind regards,
> > Marbod Mueller
> 
> http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ is the current homepage.
> 
> Downloads are at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz, but there is a link
> on the home page for that (although it does need to be made more
> obvious).
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Bishop <stuart at stuartbishop.net>
> http://www.stuartbishop.net/
> 
> 
> * Unknown Key
> * 0xBAC6374A
> 
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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 20:22:41 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:22:41 -0400
Subject: FW: Revision History of TZ database
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message Hardik Patel, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Hardik Patel [mailto:hardik at yahoo-inc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:16
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Cc: 'Hardik Patel'
Subject: Revision History of TZ database

Hi All,
Where can I find revision history of changes that has happened in TZ database across given two versions?
For example, I would like to know what all changes happened from TZ version 2007g to 2008c.
I will appreciate any pointers/help regarding this.
P.S. I have not subscribed to the timezone mailing list so kindly do ?Reply All? while responding this email thread else I will not be able to receive it.
Thanks,
Hardik



From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 20:32:53 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:53 -0400
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The file...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

				--ado



From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 20:32:53 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:53 -0400
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The file...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

				--ado



From autarch at urth.org  Thu Mar 26 20:36:29 2009
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:36:29 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org>

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:

> The file...
> 	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
> 	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

It would be really fantastic if the source for the database was kept in a 
publically accessible source repository of some modern variety.


-dave

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From jason.cipriani at gmail.com  Thu Mar 26 20:42:06 2009
From: jason.cipriani at gmail.com (Jason Cipriani)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:42:06 -0400
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
	 <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
	 <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org>
Message-ID: <c09049bf0903261342w5b4baa99yb2e74d5d11013802@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:
>
>> The file...
>> ? ? ? ?ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
>> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the
>> 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
>> ? ? ? ?http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
>> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to
>> 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.
>
> It would be really fantastic if the source for the database was kept in a
> publically accessible source repository of some modern variety.

Agreed; and rather trivial to set up source control of some sort,
assuming you have a server to host it on (a reasonable assumption).



From autarch at urth.org  Thu Mar 26 20:48:02 2009
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:48:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <c09049bf0903261342w5b4baa99yb2e74d5d11013802@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>  <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>  <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org> <c09049bf0903261342w5b4baa99yb2e74d5d11013802@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261547300.32099@urth.org>

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Jason Cipriani wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:
>>
>>> The file...
>>> ?? ?? ?? ??ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
>>> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the
>>> 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
>>> ?? ?? ?? ??http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
>>> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to
>>> 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.
>>
>> It would be really fantastic if the source for the database was kept in a
>> publically accessible source repository of some modern variety.
>
> Agreed; and rather trivial to set up source control of some sort,
> assuming you have a server to host it on (a reasonable assumption).

There's github, bitkeeper, sourceforge, and innumerable other services.

Having a server of one's own is definitely not a requirement.


-dave

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From kre at munnari.OZ.AU  Fri Mar 27 01:33:26 2009
From: kre at munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:33:26 +0700
Subject: Revision History of TZ database 
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> 
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>  <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> 
Message-ID: <12811.1238117606@epsilon.noi.kre.to>

    Date:        Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:53 -0400
    From:        "Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E]" <olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov>
    Message-ID:  <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B at nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

  | 	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
  | ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages
  | from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub/oldtz has almost all of the tz* release files
(there are just a few missing) from the beginning (tzcode93.tar.Z) up
to now (except the current versions which are in ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub -
the same files available from elsie).

kre



From stuart at stuartbishop.net  Fri Mar 27 07:58:37 2009
From: stuart at stuartbishop.net (Stuart Bishop)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:58:37 +0700
Subject: pytz download link update
In-Reply-To: <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F584512243193@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
	 <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
	 <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F584512243193@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>
Message-ID: <6bc73d4c0903270058u2a91e469u53d603e9c67c7964@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Mueller, Marbod
<Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com> wrote:
> Hello Stuart,
>
> yes it's all in place.
>
> Only, I was puzzled when following the link
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytz from twinsun and the sourceforge
> download showed files from 2006.
>
> Wouldn't it be good to change the link to point to the homepage
> http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ ?

Yes. That would be good. The current sourceforge page being pointed to
is pretty useless.

> http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ is the current homepage.



-- 
Stuart Bishop <stuart at stuartbishop.net>
http://www.stuartbishop.net/


From philipp at redfish-solutions.com  Sun Mar 29 01:40:46 2009
From: philipp at redfish-solutions.com (Philip A. Prindeville)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:40:46 -0700
Subject: Generating "TZ" string from /etc/localtime?
Message-ID: <49CED19E.8020504@redfish-solutions.com>

Sorry if this is answered somewhere and I just haven't come across it.

I'm the lead developer for Astlinux:

http://www.astlinux.org

and we're using uClibc in an embedded Linux environment.  We need a way
of parsing out zoneinfo files (starting with whatever /etc/localtime
links to) and dumping out the string at the end:

I was looking in tzcode2009.tar.gz and couldn't find a function to parse
a tzfile... sort of the complement of writezone() in zic.c.

Also, are there any patches to make cross-compilation or packaging (a la
DESTDIR) easier?

Thanks,

-Philip




From sebastien at willemijns.com  Sun Mar 29 12:05:59 2009
From: sebastien at willemijns.com (Sébastien WILLEMIJNS)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:05:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Human readable DB
Message-ID: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>

Hello,

I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes:
Europe/Roma changes DST 29rd March 2009
Europe/Paris changes DST 29rd March 2009
and more and more...

Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these
infos in one page ?



From philip.newton at gmail.com  Sun Mar 29 12:28:17 2009
From: philip.newton at gmail.com (Philip Newton)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:28:17 +0200
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>
Message-ID: <537d06d00903290528y1ee20527s3c223dc9fc83216a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/3/29 S?bastien WILLEMIJNS <sebastien at willemijns.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes:
> Europe/Roma changes DST 29rd March 2009
> Europe/Paris changes DST 29rd March 2009
> and more and more...
>
> Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these
> infos in one page ?

http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst2009.html comes close, though it
uses country names (+ locations, if necessary) rather than time zone
names.

Cheers,
-- 
Philip Newton <philip.newton at gmail.com>



From HJWOUDENBERG at aol.com  Sun Mar 29 12:37:00 2009
From: HJWOUDENBERG at aol.com (HJWOUDENBERG at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:37:00 EDT
Subject: Human readable DB
Message-ID: <d0d.4e5a739d.3700c56c@aol.com>

I found a place on the Internet.  I will see if I can locate it  again.  This 
is one site but there is another
_http://home.tiscali.nl/~t876506/TZworld.html_ 
(http://home.tiscali.nl/~t876506/TZworld.html) 
It is out their.
Herman J Woudenberg
 
 
In a message dated 3/29/2009 7:22:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sebastien at willemijns.com writes:

Do you  know a software or/and online website which give me these
infos in one page  ?



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From info at weltzeituhr.com  Sun Mar 29 14:05:24 2009
From: info at weltzeituhr.com (Weltzeituhr)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:05:24 +0200
Subject: Human readable DB
Message-ID: <8CA316FFE5754A8A8A43D1DD301A7B02@weltzeituhr>

another site
http://www.weltzeituhr.com/laender/sommerzeiten_aktu_e.shtml

Regards
Klaus Marten
http://www.weltzeituhr.de

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S?bastien WILLEMIJNS" <sebastien at willemijns.com>
To: <tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 2:05 PM
Subject: Human readable DB


Hello,

I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes:
Europe/Roma changes DST 29rd March 2009
Europe/Paris changes DST 29rd March 2009
and more and more...

Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these
infos in one page ?




From jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx  Sun Mar 29 21:48:16 2009
From: jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jesper_N=F8rgaard?=)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:48:16 -0600
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>
Message-ID: <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>

Sebastien Willemijns wrote:

>I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes: Europe/Roma
changes DST 29rd March 2009 Europe/Paris 
>changes DST 29rd March 2009 and more and more...
>
>Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these infos in
one page ?

World Time Explorer is a program I made, it has a report for currently 512
distinct timezones with this format:

(254) Cuba, Havana (GMT-5) ? - Daylight Saving is active
17.24.00 Sunday 29. March 2009 -0400 EDT
DST start : 0.00.00 Sunday 8. March 2009 -0500 EST
DST end   : 1.00.00 Sunday 25. October 2009 -0400 EDT

You can sort output on Country, City, GMT offset, original order
(country+city), 
Daylight saving start date, daylight saving end date, or ISO 3-letter
country code.
Also it is possible to format the date/time format as you want. You will get
one entry for each state above for some countries though, even they are not
different this year, in other words has same GMT offset and same start and
end date.

It is 30-days shareware however, and making this report for other years than
1950 and current year requires a license. But your basic needs should be
covered for free. Note that it only runs in Windows. Download from
http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/download.html

Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen

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From Billy.Bennett at netapp.com  Mon Mar 30 02:35:59 2009
From: Billy.Bennett at netapp.com (Bennett, Billy)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:35:59 -0400
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13> <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
Message-ID: <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>

I have a php script that takes the compiled timzone file and produces a report you might find useful.  I have not published it yet, it was a project from long ago that I lost the need for so the page has not been kept up to date, but the program there  works and may meet your need.

http://timezones.foskie.com 

For example, if I give it the 2008b timezone file for new york and ask for 1991 to 2037, I get a table with:

Entry for timezone file
New_York (1267 bytes)
For 1991 through 2037
====================================
The second after          is
====================================
Apr 07, 1991 02:59:59 EDT 03:00 EDT
Oct 27, 1991 01:59:59 EDT 01:00 EST
Apr 05, 1992 01:59:59 EST 03:00 EDT
.
.
.
Nov 01, 2037 01:59:59 EDT 01:00 EST

The first line has an error, everything after that is correct.  The first line should have read 01:59:59 EST instead of 02:59:59 EDT.  

Regards,
= Billy Bennett
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesper N?rgaard [mailto:jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx] 
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:48 PM
To: TZ-list; sebastien at willemijns.com
Subject: RE: Human readable DB

Sebastien Willemijns wrote:

>I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes: 
>Europe/Roma
changes DST 29rd March 2009 Europe/Paris 
>changes DST 29rd March 2009 and more and more...
>
>Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these infos 
>in
one page ?

World Time Explorer is a program I made, it has a report for currently 512 distinct timezones with this format:

(254) Cuba, Havana (GMT-5) ? - Daylight Saving is active 17.24.00 Sunday 29. March 2009 -0400 EDT DST start : 0.00.00 Sunday 8. March 2009 -0500 EST
DST end   : 1.00.00 Sunday 25. October 2009 -0400 EDT

You can sort output on Country, City, GMT offset, original order (country+city), Daylight saving start date, daylight saving end date, or ISO 3-letter country code.
Also it is possible to format the date/time format as you want. You will get one entry for each state above for some countries though, even they are not different this year, in other words has same GMT offset and same start and end date.

It is 30-days shareware however, and making this report for other years than 1950 and current year requires a license. But your basic needs should be covered for free. Note that it only runs in Windows. Download from http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/download.html

Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen

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20:05
 





From dr at ez.no  Mon Mar 30 07:32:02 2009
From: dr at ez.no (Derick Rethans)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:32:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13> <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC> <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903300928350.5127@kossu.ez.no>

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Bennett, Billy wrote:

> I have a php script that takes the compiled timzone file and produces 
> a report you might find useful.  I have not published it yet, it was a 
> project from long ago that I lost the need for so the page has not 
> been kept up to date, but the program there works and may meet your 
> need.

Do you realize that PHP has this information already embedded? Since PHP 
5.1 we bundle a compressed/archive version of the Olson database and use 
it internally for all date/timezone operations. It's quite trivial to 
generate this data:

<?php
$a = new DateTimeZone( "America/New_York" );
$ts = $a->getTransitions(); 
var_dump( $ts );
?>


with kind regards,
Derick

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twitter: derickrethans


From Billy.Bennett at netapp.com  Mon Mar 30 12:19:24 2009
From: Billy.Bennett at netapp.com (Bennett, Billy)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:19:24 -0400
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903300928350.5127@kossu.ez.no>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13> <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC> <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com> <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903300928350.5127@kossu.ez.no>
Message-ID: <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062034E2@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>

Excellent!  How do I get this function to read the file a visitor
uploads, instead of just providing the information from php's separate
implementation of the zoneinfo data? I didn't think that was possible,
so I used the routines I wrote long ago for the same purpose.


Thanks,
=Billy Bennett  
Escalations Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: Derick Rethans [mailto:dr at ez.no] 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:32 AM
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Cc: TZ-list; sebastien at willemijns.com
Subject: RE: Human readable DB

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Bennett, Billy wrote:

> I have a php script that takes the compiled timzone file and produces 
> a report you might find useful.  I have not published it yet, it was a

> project from long ago that I lost the need for so the page has not 
> been kept up to date, but the program there works and may meet your 
> need.

Do you realize that PHP has this information already embedded? Since PHP
5.1 we bundle a compressed/archive version of the Olson database and use
it internally for all date/timezone operations. It's quite trivial to
generate this data:

<?php
$a = new DateTimeZone( "America/New_York" ); $ts = $a->getTransitions();
var_dump( $ts ); ?>


with kind regards,
Derick

-- 
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twitter: derickrethans




From baby at baby.com.ar  Mon Mar 30 14:34:26 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:34:26 -0300
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <49D0D872.1010605@baby.com.ar>

Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] escribi? el 26/03/09 17:32:
> The file...
> 	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
> 	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.
>   
To download old versions of tzcode and tzdata, I'd rather use 
ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub/oldtz/ (which is already linked in 
http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm).

It goes back to tzcode93/tzdata93b and seems to be more up to date, 
since the newest tzdata is 2009c (and osuosl.org newest one is 2009a).

Regards.

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From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Tue Mar 31 18:49:34 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:49:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed time zone package changes for Palestine, pytz home page
Message-ID: <200903311849.n2VInYvZ025683@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Below are two proposed time zone packages changes, the first to the "asia" file
to reflect Palestine's change this year in the start and en of DST and the
second to the tz-link.htm file to reflect the change in the pytz home page.

If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp directory this
coming Monday.

				--ado

------- asia -------
*** /tmp/geta25630	Tue Mar 31 14:46:47 2009
--- /tmp/getb25630	Tue Mar 31 14:46:47 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)asia	8.26
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)asia	8.27
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 1695,1700 ****
--- 1695,1716 ----
  # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_gazastrip01.html
  # </a>
  
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-26):
+ # According to the Palestine News Network (arabic.pnn.ps), Palestinian
+ # government decided to start Daylight Time on Thursday night March
+ # 26 and continue until the night of 27 September 2009.
+ #
+ # (in Arabic)
+ # <a href="http://arabic.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50850">
+ # http://arabic.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50850
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # or
+ # (English translation)
+ # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_westbank01.html">
+ # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_westbank01.html
+ # </a>
+ 
  # The rules for Egypt are stolen from the `africa' file.
  # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  Rule EgyptAsia	1957	only	-	May	10	0:00	1:00	S
***************
*** 1708,1717 ****
  Rule Palestine	1999	2003	-	Oct	Fri>=15	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2004	only	-	Oct	 1	1:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2005	only	-	Oct	 4	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2006	max	-	Apr	 1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule Palestine	2006	only	-	Sep	22	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2007	only	-	Sep	Thu>=8	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2008	max	-	Aug	lastThu	2:00	0	-
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Gaza	2:17:52	-	LMT	1900 Oct
--- 1724,1735 ----
  Rule Palestine	1999	2003	-	Oct	Fri>=15	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2004	only	-	Oct	 1	1:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2005	only	-	Oct	 4	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2006	2008	-	Apr	 1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule Palestine	2006	only	-	Sep	22	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2007	only	-	Sep	Thu>=8	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2008	only	-	Aug	lastThu	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2009	max	-	Mar	lastThu	0:00	1:00	S
! Rule Palestine	2009	max	-	Sep	lastSun	2:00	0	-
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Gaza	2:17:52	-	LMT	1900 Oct

------- tz-link.htm -------
*** /tmp/geta25650	Tue Mar 31 14:46:58 2009
--- /tmp/getb25650	Tue Mar 31 14:46:58 2009
***************
*** 18,24 ****
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.17
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
--- 18,24 ----
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.18
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
***************
*** 218,224 ****
  <code>org.joda.time.tz.ZoneInfoCompiler</code> that compiles
  <code>tz</code> source into a Joda-specific binary format. Joda Time
  is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>
! <li><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytz">PyTZ - Python Time
  Zone Library</a> compiles <code>tz</code> source into
  <a href="http://python.org/">Python</a>.
  It is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>
--- 218,224 ----
  <code>org.joda.time.tz.ZoneInfoCompiler</code> that compiles
  <code>tz</code> source into a Joda-specific binary format. Joda Time
  is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>
! <li><a href="http://pytz.sourceforge.net">PyTZ - Python Time
  Zone Library</a> compiles <code>tz</code> source into
  <a href="http://python.org/">Python</a>.
  It is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>


From mir at pax.apana.org.au  Tue Mar  3 11:20:09 2009
From: mir at pax.apana.org.au (Mirko Fluher)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:20:09 +1100
Subject: tzdata2009b
Message-ID: <20090303112009.GA22067@pax.apana.org.au>

The file tzdata2009b.tar.gz needs to be updated to reflect the new 
daylight saving of Australia/Victoria ... now moving from March to the first
Sunday in April see:

http://www.vic.gov.au/news-detail/daylight-saving-has-changed.html

Thank you!
Cheers,

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From mir at pax.apana.org.au  Tue Mar  3 11:54:17 2009
From: mir at pax.apana.org.au (Mirko Fluher)
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:54:17 +1100
Subject: ooppsss... 
Message-ID: <20090303115417.GA22321@pax.apana.org.au>

sorry ... ignore my previous message .. 
the current tzdata file is ok for Australia/Victoria !

Cheers,

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From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Wed Mar  4 16:35:20 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:35:20 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Cuba will start DST on midnight between March 07, 2009 and March 08, 2009
Message-ID: <loom.20090304T163314-793@post.gmane.org>

According to the Radio Reloj - Cuba will start Daylight Saving Time on midnight 
between Saturday, March 07, 2009 and Sunday, March 08, 2009-
not on midnight March 14 / March 15 as previously thought.

http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html
(in Spanish)


Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar  9 14:31:49 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:31:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change to northamerica file in time zone package for Cuba
Message-ID: <200903091431.n29EVnZP029564@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Having checked this morning on Cuba having actually switched,
here's a proposed change to the "northamerica" file.
Assuming no problems are found, expect this version to hit the ftp site
in a week.

				--ado

------- northamerica -------
*** /tmp/geta29524	Mon Mar  9 10:29:36 2009
--- /tmp/getb29524	Mon Mar  9 10:29:36 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)northamerica	8.26
  # <pre>
  
  # also includes Central America and the Caribbean
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)northamerica	8.27
  # <pre>
  
  # also includes Central America and the Caribbean
***************
*** 2258,2263 ****
--- 2258,2282 ----
  # From Arthur David Olson (2008-03-12):
  # Assume Sun>=15 (third Sunday) going forward.
  
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-04)
+ # According to the Radio Reloj - Cuba will start Daylight Saving Time on
+ # midnight between Saturday, March 07, 2009 and Sunday, March 08, 2009-
+ # not on midnight March 14 / March 15 as previously thought.
+ #
+ # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html">
+ # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html
+ # (in Spanish)
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Arthur David Olson (2009-03-09)
+ # I listened over the Internet to
+ # <a href="http://media.enet.cu/readioreloj">
+ # http://media.enet.cu/readioreloj
+ # </a>
+ # this morning; when it was 10:05 a. m. here in Bethesda, Maryland the
+ # the time was announced as "diez cinco"--the same time as here, indicating
+ # that has indeed switched to DST. Assume second Sunday from 2009 forward.
+ 
  # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  Rule	Cuba	1928	only	-	Jun	10	0:00	1:00	D
  Rule	Cuba	1928	only	-	Oct	10	0:00	0	S
***************
*** 2290,2296 ****
  Rule	Cuba	2000	2004	-	Apr	Sun>=1	0:00s	1:00	D
  Rule	Cuba	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	0:00s	0	S
  Rule	Cuba	2007	only	-	Mar	Sun>=8	0:00s	1:00	D
! Rule	Cuba	2008	max	-	Mar	Sun>=15	0:00s	1:00	D
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	America/Havana	-5:29:28 -	LMT	1890
--- 2309,2316 ----
  Rule	Cuba	2000	2004	-	Apr	Sun>=1	0:00s	1:00	D
  Rule	Cuba	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	0:00s	0	S
  Rule	Cuba	2007	only	-	Mar	Sun>=8	0:00s	1:00	D
! Rule	Cuba	2008	only	-	Mar	Sun>=15	0:00s	1:00	D
! Rule	Cuba	2009	max	-	Mar	Sun>=8	0:00s	1:00	D
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	America/Havana	-5:29:28 -	LMT	1890


From baby at baby.com.ar  Fri Mar 13 10:38:34 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:38:34 -0200
Subject: Last minute change for the Province of San Luis (Argentina)
Message-ID: <49BA37AA.2050708@baby.com.ar>

Hi,

yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis decided 
that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go to 
utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October...

The press release is at 
http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102 
(I couldn't find the decree, but www.sanluis.gov.ar is the official page 
for the Province Government).

There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La Naci?n) 
at http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912

I'll try to write a patch to southamerica and send it right away.

-- 
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baby at baby.com.ar
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From baby at baby.com.ar  Fri Mar 13 11:03:40 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:03:40 -0200
Subject: Last minute change for the Province of San Luis (Argentina)
In-Reply-To: <49BA37AA.2050708@baby.com.ar>
References: <49BA37AA.2050708@baby.com.ar>
Message-ID: <49BA3D8C.8040809@baby.com.ar>

Mariano Absatz - El Baby escribi? el 13/03/09 08:38:
> yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis 
> decided that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go 
> to utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October...
>
> The press release is at 
> http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102 
> (I couldn't find the decree, but www.sanluis.gov.ar is the official 
> page for the Province Government).
>
> There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La 
> Naci?n) at http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912
>
> I'll try to write a patch to southamerica and send it right away.
The press release says:
> (...) anunci? que el pr?ximo domingo a las 00:00 los puntanos deber?n 
> atrasar una hora sus relojes.
>  
> A partir de entonces, San Luis establecer? el huso horario propio de 
> la Provincia. De esta manera, durante el periodo del calendario anual 
> 2009, el cambio horario quedar? comprendido entre las 00:00 del tercer 
> domingo de marzo y las 24:00 del segundo s?bado de octubre.
Quick&dirty translation
> (...) announced that next Sunday, at 00:00, Puntanos (the San Luis 
> inhabitants) will have to turn back one hour their clocks
>
> Since then, San Luis will establish its own Province timezone. Thus, 
> during 2009, this timezone change will run from 00:00 the third Sunday 
> in March until 24:00 of the second Saturday in October.

Attached is a patch that implements just that only for 2009, and then 
leaves the Province fixed at UTC-03:00.

Regards.



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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 14:00:14 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:00:14 -0400
Subject: tzdata2009c.tar.gz
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0534@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The file...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009c.tar.gz
...is now available; this reflects the change to the start of Cuban DST
circulated last week on the time zone mailing list.

I'm holding off on a San Luis (Argentina) change pending investigation
of whether they plan to switch clocks every year.

					--ado



From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 14:32:23 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:32:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change for San Luis
Message-ID: <200903161432.n2GEWND3000925@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Below is a proposed change for San Luis, reflecting the claim that the province will be observing standard Argentine DST in the future.
Barring negative comments, this change will appear in the ftp version in a week.

				--ado

------- southamerica -------
*** /tmp/geta878	Mon Mar 16 10:29:25 2009
--- /tmp/getb878	Mon Mar 16 10:29:25 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)southamerica	8.33
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)southamerica	8.34
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 351,357 ****
--- 351,401 ----
  # keep America/Cordoba a single region rather than splitting it into the
  # other 5 subregions.
  
+ # From Mariano Absatz (2009-03-13):
+ # Yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis
+ # decided that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go
+ # to utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October...
  #
+ # The press release is at
+ # <a href="http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102">
+ # http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensaId=3102
+ # </a>
+ # (I couldn't find the decree, but
+ # <a href="http://www.sanluis.gov.ar">
+ # www.sanluis.gov.ar
+ # <a/>
+ # is the official page for the Province Government).
+ #
+ # There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La Naci?n) at
+ # <a href="http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912">
+ # http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912
+ # </a>
+ # 
+ # The press release says:
+ #  (...) anunci? que el pr?ximo domingo a las 00:00 los puntanos deber?n
+ # atrasar una hora sus relojes.
+ #
+ # A partir de entonces, San Luis establecer? el huso horario propio de
+ # la Provincia. De esta manera, durante el periodo del calendario anual
+ # 2009, el cambio horario quedar? comprendido entre las 00:00 del tercer
+ # domingo de marzo y las 24:00 del segundo s?bado de octubre.
+ # Quick&dirty translation
+ # (...) announced that next Sunday, at 00:00, Puntanos (the San Luis
+ # inhabitants) will have to turn back one hour their clocks
+ #
+ # Since then, San Luis will establish its own Province timezone. Thus,
+ # during 2009, this timezone change will run from 00:00 the third Sunday
+ # in March until 24:00 of the second Saturday in October.
+ 
+ # From Arthur David Olson (2009-03-16):
+ # The unofficial claim at
+ # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/san-luis-new-time-zone.html">
+ # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/san-luis-new-time-zone.html
+ # </a>
+ # is that "The province will most likely follow the next daylight saving schedule,
+ # which is planned for the second Sunday in October."
+ 
+ #
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  #
  # Buenos Aires (BA), Capital Federal (CF),
***************
*** 498,504 ****
  			-3:00	-	ART	2004 May 31
  			-4:00	-	WART	2004 Jul 25
  			-3:00	Arg	AR%sT	2008 Jan 21
! 			-3:00	-	ART
  #
  # Santa Cruz (SC)
  Zone America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos -4:36:52 - LMT 1894 Oct 31
--- 542,549 ----
  			-3:00	-	ART	2004 May 31
  			-4:00	-	WART	2004 Jul 25
  			-3:00	Arg	AR%sT	2008 Jan 21
! 			-3:00	-	ART	2009 Mar 15
! 			-4:00	Arg	WAR%sT
  #
  # Santa Cruz (SC)
  Zone America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos -4:36:52 - LMT 1894 Oct 31


From nazabal at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 14:57:17 2009
From: nazabal at gmail.com (Norberto Nazabal)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:57:17 -0300
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <4b06bbe40903160757n28f7fe45l75b8d0b556762555@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

First, let me thank to all of you for your excellent work maintaining the
time zone database.
I'm user of several programs using your database as source and I want to add
a new time zone for San Luis, Argentina because currently we are using a
different time zone that all the rest of the country.
This is the link for the local law (spanish) that define the new time zone:
http://ministerios.sanluis.gov.ar/res/media/pdf/18459.doc
Basically the law says:
1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of
October to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of April.
2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of
April to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of October.

I hope this can help you to include these changes in your database to be
able to select the correct time zone for my State.

Thanks,

Norberto Nazabal
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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 14:59:52 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:59:52 -0400
Subject: FW: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0538@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message from Norberto Nazabal, who is not on the
time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct
replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:58
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina

Hi all,

First, let me thank to all of you for your excellent work maintaining
the time zone database.
I'm user of several programs using your database as source and I want to
add a new time zone for San Luis, Argentina because currently we are
using a different time zone that all the rest of the country.
This is the link for the local law (spanish) that define the new time
zone: http://ministerios.sanluis.gov.ar/res/media/pdf/18459.doc
Basically the law says:
1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour from the second
Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of April.
2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour from the second
Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of October.

I hope this can help you to include these changes in your database to be
able to select the correct time zone for my State.

Thanks,

Norberto Nazabal



From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Mon Mar 16 16:43:53 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:43:53 +0100
Subject: Tunisia cancels DST
Message-ID: <49BE81C9.6010507@thorsen.priv.no>

According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year.
(Arabic)
http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546
http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp

We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia.
We have a wrap-up about this on the following page:
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html

Regards,
Steffen Thorsen / timeanddate.com


From jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx  Mon Mar 16 18:45:41 2009
From: jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jesper_N=F8rgaard?=)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:45:41 -0600
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <000001c9a667$6d2392e0$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>

Norberto Nazabal wrote:

>Basically the law says:

>1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of
October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April.

>2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of
April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.

I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was
published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains
serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so
long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following
the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press
conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?

The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second
Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second
Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining
two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this
is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the
24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00
hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where
the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th.
of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday).
So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from
2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from
2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??

The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in
a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The
future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different,
Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18
00:00:00.

Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen


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From nazabal at gmail.com  Mon Mar 16 19:18:47 2009
From: nazabal at gmail.com (Norberto Nazabal)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:18:47 -0300
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
In-Reply-To: <000001c9a667$6d2392e0$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
References: <000001c9a667$6d2392e0$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
Message-ID: <4b06bbe40903161218j6ed369berf6ea5ff7912d045f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jesper,

Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using
the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00.
I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I
will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that
information.
Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time
zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of
which time zone we will use.

Regards,

Norberto Nazabal.


2009/3/16 Jesper N?rgaard <jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx>

>  Norberto Nazabal wrote:
>
> >Basically the law says:
>
> >1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday
> of October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April.
>
> >2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday
> of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.
>
> I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was
> published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains
> serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so
> long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following
> the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press
> conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?
>
> The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second
> Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second
> Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining
> two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this
> is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the
> 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00
> hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where
> the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th.
> of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday).
> So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from
> 2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from
> 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??
>
> The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree
> in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed.
> The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different,
> Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18
> 00:00:00.
>
> Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen
>
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> Checked by AVG.
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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 16 19:19:55 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:19:55 -0400
Subject: FW: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A053B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message from NorbertoNazabal, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:19
To: Jesper N?rgaard
Cc: TZ-list
Subject: Re: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina

Hi Jesper,

Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00.
I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that information.
Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of which time zone we will use.

Regards,

Norberto Nazabal.

2009/3/16 Jesper N?rgaard <jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx>
Norberto Nazabal wrote:
>Basically the law says:
>1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour?of the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the second?Saturday of April.
>2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour?of the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.
I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was published?already back in December 2008. However this definition contains serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST?instead with a frantic press conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?
The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always?the same time as the Second Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00 hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th. of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday). So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from 2011-10-09 00:00:00?to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??
The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different, Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18 00:00:00.
Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen

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From baby at baby.com.ar  Mon Mar 16 22:10:17 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:10:17 -0300
Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A053B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A053B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <49BECE49.9040403@baby.com.ar>

Hi,

Jesper is right in what he notes regarding the inconsistency of 2nd 
Saturday @24:00 vs. 2nd Sunday @00:00.

It is weird that, even when San Luis is having its own timezone for the 
winter, they also have their own algorithm for changing... in their 
favor, the National Government is NOT defining in advance what algorithm 
they will use next year, so that they could decide every year a 
different rule :-(

Norberto,

please, if you can contact someone responsible within the Provincial 
Government, try to explain to them the problem and what would they do in 
April 2012 that is the first time the rule will fail (I bet they'll say 
that they will eventually check that in 2011 or later)... don't expect 
them to understand the problem (although it might be easier that someone 
does understand in San Luis than in Buenos Aires).

Don't hesitate to write directly to me in Spanish if you'd rather I 
translate or forward your messages to the list, either at this address 
or, better yet, at "el PUNTO baby ARROBA gmail PUNTO com".

If you need help, drop me a line in private and we can talk over the phone.

Regards, and very nice to see there's someone else in Argentina worrying 
about this :-)


Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] escribi? el 16/03/09 16:19:
> I'm forwarding this message from NorbertoNazabal, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately.
>
> 				--ado
>
> From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:19
> To: Jesper N?rgaard
> Cc: TZ-list
> Subject: Re: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
>
> Hi Jesper,
>
> Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00.
> I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that information.
> Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of which time zone we will use.
>
> Regards,
>
> Norberto Nazabal.
>
> 2009/3/16 Jesper N?rgaard <jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx>
> Norberto Nazabal wrote:
>   
>> Basically the law says:
>> 1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April.
>> 2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October.
>>     
> I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented?
> The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00 hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th. of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday). So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from 2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ??
> The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different, Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18 00:00:00.
> Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen
>   

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From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Tue Mar 17 10:32:53 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:32:53 +0100
Subject: Morocco to observe DST in 2009
Message-ID: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no>

Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 
according to many sources, such as
http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French)

Our summary:
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html

Best regards,
Steffen / timeanddate.com


From ygoraly at gmail.com  Tue Mar 17 17:08:40 2009
From: ygoraly at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?15nXotecINeS15XXqNec15k=?=)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:08:40 +0200
Subject: Morocco to observe DST in 2009
In-Reply-To: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no>
References: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no>
Message-ID: <24c7744e0903171008g54ea385dw621758d1ba055ace@mail.gmail.com>

DST starts on July 1 at midnight - GMT+1
DST ends on August 20 at 23:00

I verified Tunisia.


On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Steffen Thorsen <straen at thorsen.priv.no>wrote:

> Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00
> according to many sources, such as
> http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
> http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French)
>
> Our summary:
> http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
>
> Best regards,
> Steffen / timeanddate.com
>
>
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From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Tue Mar 17 17:59:05 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:59:05 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Morocco to observe DST in 2009- link to official document
References: <49BF7C55.8010807@thorsen.priv.no> <24c7744e0903171008g54ea385dw621758d1ba055ace@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20090317T175806-11@post.gmane.org>

??? ????? <ygoraly <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> DST starts on July 1 at midnight - GMT+1DST ends on August 20 at 23:00I 
verified Tunisia.On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Steffen Thorsen <straen <at> 
thorsen.priv.no> wrote:Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-
08-21 00:00 according to many sources, such 
ashttp://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-
saving.htmlhttp://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French)
> Our summary:http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
> Best regards,
> Steffen / timeanddate.com


Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre, 
Minist?re de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics 

Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967) 
concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of 
Public Sectors 
announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be advanced 60 minutes 
from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight.

http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf

http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html

Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Tue Mar 17 18:07:51 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:07:51 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Tunisia cancels DST- links to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency
References: <49BE81C9.6010507@thorsen.priv.no>
Message-ID: <loom.20090317T180633-600@post.gmane.org>

Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency

Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn):

(in English)
http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157

(in Arabic)
http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1

Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Wed Mar 18 12:56:35 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:56:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed changes to "africa" for Morocco and Tunisia
Message-ID: <200903181256.n2ICuZNX008659@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Here are proposed changes to the "africa" file in the time zone package;
these reflect changes in Morocco and Tunisia.
If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp version on the 23rd.

				--ado

------- africa -------
*** /tmp/geta8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
--- /tmp/getb8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)africa	8.17
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)africa	8.18
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 564,569 ****
--- 564,603 ----
  # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html">
  # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html
  # </a>
+ 
+ # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-17):
+ # Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 according
+ # to many sources, such as
+ # <a href="http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html">
+ # http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
+ # </a>
+ # <a href="http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312">
+ # http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312
+ # </a>
+ # (French)
+ #
+ # Our summary:
+ # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html">
+ # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
+ # Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre,
+ # Ministere de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics
+ #
+ # Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967)
+ # concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of
+ # Public Sectors announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be
+ # advanced 60 minutes from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight.
+ #
+ # <a href="http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf">
+ # http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html">
+ # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html
+ # </a>
+ 
  # RULE	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  
  Rule	Morocco	1939	only	-	Sep	12	 0:00	1:00	S
***************
*** 583,588 ****
--- 617,624 ----
  Rule	Morocco	1978	only	-	Aug	 4	 0:00	0	-
  Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
  Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Sep	 1	 0:00	0	-
+ Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
+ Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Aug	 21	 0:00	0	-
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone Africa/Casablanca	-0:30:20 -	LMT	1913 Oct 26
  			 0:00	Morocco	WE%sT	1984 Mar 16
***************
*** 787,792 ****
--- 823,865 ----
  # Ending         : the last Sunday of October at 03:00 ...
  # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1188&Itemid=50
  
+ # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-16):
+ # According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year.
+ # (Arabic)
+ # <a href="http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546">
+ # http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546
+ # </a>
+ # <a href="http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp">
+ # http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia.
+ # We have a wrap-up about this on the following page:
+ # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html">
+ # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
+ # Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency
+ #
+ # Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn):
+ #
+ # (in English)
+ # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157">
+ # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # (in Arabic)
+ # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1">
+ # http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1
+ # </a>
+ 
+ # From Arthur David Olson (2009--3-18):
+ # The Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency notice contains this: "This measure is due to the fact
+ # that the fasting month of ramadan coincides with the period concerned by summer time.
+ # Therefore, the standard time will be kept unchanged the whole year long."
+ # So foregoing DST seems to be an exception (albeit one that may be repeated in the  future).
+ 
  # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Apr	15	23:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Nov	18	23:00s	0	-
***************
*** 811,818 ****
  Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
  # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
  # more precise 0:09:21.
  # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.
--- 884,893 ----
  Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
  Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
  # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
  # more precise 0:09:21.
  # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.


From atef at ati.tn  Wed Mar 18 14:14:48 2009
From: atef at ati.tn (Atef LOUKIL)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:14:48 +0100
Subject: proposed changes to "africa" for Morocco and Tunisia
In-Reply-To: <200903181256.n2ICuZNX008659@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
References: <200903181256.n2ICuZNX008659@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <49C101D8.3020203@ati.tn>

Yes definitely, I do confirm that from 2009 and on, Tunisia will no 
longer observe daylight saving time.
The daylight saving have been used  from 2006 till 2008 beginning on 
each last Sunday of March  at 2:00 am and ending on the last Sunday of 
October at 3:00 am.

 From 2009 and on Tunisian will no longer use daylight saving. Here is 
the link to the Tunisian press agency whom announced this :

http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=153 


Regards,

_______________________________________________________
Atef LOUKIL
Tunisian Internet Agency,
ATI-LIR&NIC Departement
13, Rue Jugurtha Mutuelleville - 1002 Tunis - Tunisia
Phone: 216 71 846 100
Fax: 216 71 846 600
http://www.ati.tn



Arthur David Olson wrote:
> Here are proposed changes to the "africa" file in the time zone package;
> these reflect changes in Morocco and Tunisia.
> If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp version on the 23rd.
>
> 				--ado
>
> ------- africa -------
> *** /tmp/geta8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
> --- /tmp/getb8634	Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009
> ***************
> *** 1,4 ****
> ! # @(#)africa	8.17
>   # <pre>
>   
>   # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
> --- 1,4 ----
> ! # @(#)africa	8.18
>   # <pre>
>   
>   # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
> ***************
> *** 564,569 ****
> --- 564,603 ----
>   # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html">
>   # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html
>   # </a>
> + 
> + # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-17):
> + # Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 according
> + # to many sources, such as
> + # <a href="http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html">
> + # http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html
> + # </a>
> + # <a href="http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312">
> + # http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312
> + # </a>
> + # (French)
> + #
> + # Our summary:
> + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html">
> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html
> + # </a>
> + 
> + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
> + # Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre,
> + # Ministere de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics
> + #
> + # Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967)
> + # concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of
> + # Public Sectors announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be
> + # advanced 60 minutes from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight.
> + #
> + # <a href="http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf">
> + # http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR.pdf
> + # </a>
> + #
> + # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html">
> + # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html
> + # </a>
> + 
>   # RULE	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
>   
>   Rule	Morocco	1939	only	-	Sep	12	 0:00	1:00	S
> ***************
> *** 583,588 ****
> --- 617,624 ----
>   Rule	Morocco	1978	only	-	Aug	 4	 0:00	0	-
>   Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
>   Rule	Morocco	2008	only	-	Sep	 1	 0:00	0	-
> + Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Jun	 1	 0:00	1:00	S
> + Rule	Morocco	2009	only	-	Aug	 21	 0:00	0	-
>   # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
>   Zone Africa/Casablanca	-0:30:20 -	LMT	1913 Oct 26
>   			 0:00	Morocco	WE%sT	1984 Mar 16
> ***************
> *** 787,792 ****
> --- 823,865 ----
>   # Ending         : the last Sunday of October at 03:00 ...
>   # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1188&Itemid=50
>   
> + # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-16):
> + # According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year.
> + # (Arabic)
> + # <a href="http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546">
> + # http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546
> + # </a>
> + # <a href="http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp">
> + # http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp
> + # </a>
> + #
> + # We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia.
> + # We have a wrap-up about this on the following page:
> + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html">
> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html
> + # </a>
> + 
> + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17):
> + # Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency
> + #
> + # Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn):
> + #
> + # (in English)
> + # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157">
> + # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&Itemid=157
> + # </a>
> + #
> + # (in Arabic)
> + # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1">
> + # http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&Itemid=1
> + # </a>
> + 
> + # From Arthur David Olson (2009--3-18):
> + # The Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency notice contains this: "This measure is due to the fact
> + # that the fasting month of ramadan coincides with the period concerned by summer time.
> + # Therefore, the standard time will be kept unchanged the whole year long."
> + # So foregoing DST seems to be an exception (albeit one that may be repeated in the  future).
> + 
>   # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
>   Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Apr	15	23:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	1939	only	-	Nov	18	23:00s	0	-
> ***************
> *** 811,818 ****
>   Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
>   # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
>   # more precise 0:09:21.
>   # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.
> --- 884,893 ----
>   Rule	Tunisia	1990	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	May	 1	 0:00s	1:00	S
>   Rule	Tunisia	2005	only	-	Sep	30	 1:00s	0	-
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2006	2008	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Mar	lastSun	 2:00s	1:00	S
> ! Rule	Tunisia	2010	max	-	Oct	lastSun	 2:00s	0	-
>   # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's
>   # more precise 0:09:21.
>   # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.
>
>
>   
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From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Thu Mar 19 12:50:02 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:50:02 +0100
Subject: Syria starts DST one week earlier
Message-ID: <49C23F7A.6070000@thorsen.priv.no>

Syria will start DST on 2009-03-27 00:00 this year according to many 
sources, two examples:

http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm (English, Syrian Arab 
News Agency)
http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=94459258720090318012209 
(Arabic, gov-site)

We have not found any sources saying anything about when DST ends this year.

Our summary
http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html

Best regards,
Steffen Thorsen / timeanddate.com


From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Thu Mar 19 19:25:01 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:25:01 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March 2009
Message-ID: <loom.20090319T192401-252@post.gmane.org>

According to the Pakistan Online International News Network, 
Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March 2009.

Business Community For Switching To Daylight Saving Time From March 29, 2009 
http://www.onlinenews.com.pk/details.php?id=142619

or

http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_pakistan03.html

Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com



From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 19 19:46:17 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:46:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change to tz-link.htm
Message-ID: <200903191946.n2JJkHI3018602@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

The change below eliminates a dead link resulting from the
American Astronomical Society having disbanded its leap second committee.
Expect this change in the ftp version of the files this coming Monday.

				--ado

------- tz-link.htm -------
*** /tmp/geta18562	Thu Mar 19 15:44:13 2009
--- /tmp/getb18562	Thu Mar 19 15:44:13 2009
***************
*** 18,24 ****
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.16
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
--- 18,24 ----
  <body>
  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
  <address>
! @(#)tz-link.htm	8.17
  </address>
  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
***************
*** 555,561 ****
  discussed further in
  <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/time/metrologia-leapsecond.pdf">The
  leap second: its history and possible future</a>.
! The <a href="http://aas.org/policy/LeapSecondCommittee.html"><abbr
  title="American Astronomical Society">AAS</abbr> Leap Second
  Committee</a> has solicited input on this proposal.
  <a href="http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/">The
--- 555,561 ----
  discussed further in
  <a href="http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/time/metrologia-leapsecond.pdf">The
  leap second: its history and possible future</a>.
! The (now disbanded) <a href="http://members.aas.org/comms/leap.cfm"><abbr
  title="American Astronomical Society">AAS</abbr> Leap Second
  Committee</a> has solicited input on this proposal.
  <a href="http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs/">The


From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 19 20:41:00 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:41:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed change to "asia" time zone file (for Syria)
Message-ID: <200903192041.n2JKf0IT018951@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Below find a proposed change to the "asia" file in the time zone package to
reflect Syria's move of the start of DST in 2009. If no problems are found,
this should appear in the ftp version this coming Monday.

				--ado

------- asia -------
*** /tmp/geta18918	Thu Mar 19 16:38:56 2009
--- /tmp/getb18918	Thu Mar 19 16:38:56 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)asia	8.25
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)asia	8.26
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 1969,1976 ****
  # http://sana.sy/ara/2/2008/10/07/195459.htm
  # </a>
  
! Rule	Syria	2008	max	-	Apr	Fri>=1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule	Syria	2008	max	-	Nov	1	0:00	0	-
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Damascus	2:25:12 -	LMT	1920	# Dimashq
--- 1969,1997 ----
  # http://sana.sy/ara/2/2008/10/07/195459.htm
  # </a>
  
! # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-19):
! # Syria will start DST on 2009-03-27 00:00 this year according to many sources,
! # two examples:
! #
! # <a href="http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm">
! # http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm
! # </a>
! # (English, Syrian Arab News # Agency)
! # <a href="http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=94459258720090318012209">
! # http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=94459258720090318012209
! # </a>
! # (Arabic, gov-site)
! #
! # We have not found any sources saying anything about when DST ends this year.
! #
! # Our summary
! # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html">
! # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html
! # </a>
! 
! Rule	Syria	2008	only	-	Apr	Fri>=1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule	Syria	2008	max	-	Nov	1	0:00	0	-
+ Rule	Syria	2009	max	-	Mar	lastFri	0:00	1:00	S
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Damascus	2:25:12 -	LMT	1920	# Dimashq


From straen at thorsen.priv.no  Sun Mar 22 08:31:46 2009
From: straen at thorsen.priv.no (Steffen Thorsen)
Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:31:46 +0100
Subject: Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March
 2009
In-Reply-To: <loom.20090319T192401-252@post.gmane.org>
References: <loom.20090319T192401-252@post.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <49C5F772.8000206@thorsen.priv.no>

Alexander Krivenyshev wrote:
> According to the Pakistan Online International News Network, 
> Pakistan businessmen demanded to start DST on Sunday 29th March 2009.
>   
According to the following articles, the Pakistan Electric Power Company 
suggests to start daylight saving time on 1 April:
http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=14873754
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=21063

Regards,
Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com


From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Mon Mar 23 13:47:59 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:47:59 -0400
Subject: tzcode2009d.tar.gz and tzdata2009d.tar.gz
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0564@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The files...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2009d.tar.gz
...and...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009d.tar.gz
...are now available; these reflect the Morocco, Tunisia, Argentina, and
American Astronomical Society changes circulated last week on the time
zone mailing list.

There may well be an update for Pakistan shortly; folks who want to
avoid thrashing may want to wait for tzdata2009e.tar.gz.

					--ado



From hardik at yahoo-inc.com  Wed Mar 25 18:16:04 2009
From: hardik at yahoo-inc.com (Hardik Patel)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:46:04 +0530
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
Message-ID: <9B351F55938E412E8F5A70188EA7C1C1@ds.corp.yahoo.com>

Hi All,

Where can I find revision history of changes that has happened in TZ database across given two versions?

For example, I would like to know what all changes happened from TZ version 2007g to 2008c.

I will appreciate any pointers/help regarding this.

P.S. I have not subscribed to the timezone mailing list so kindly do ?Reply All? while responding this email thread else I will not be able to receive it.

Thanks,
Hardik
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From Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com  Thu Mar 26 09:52:43 2009
From: Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com (Mueller, Marbod)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:52:43 +0100
Subject: pytz download link update
Message-ID: <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F58451224318F@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>

Hello,

it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code. Rather
it can be found at the Python Package Index 
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz

Please update the link found in http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm

Kind regards,
Marbod Mueller

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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 13:13:55 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:13:55 -0400
Subject: FW: pytz download link update
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message from Marbod Mueller, who is not on the time
zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct
replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Mueller, Marbod [mailto:Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 5:53
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Subject: pytz download link update

Hello, 
it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code. Rather
it can be found at the Python Package Index 
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz 
Please update the link found in http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm 
Kind regards, 
Marbod Mueller 



From stuart at stuartbishop.net  Thu Mar 26 13:58:35 2009
From: stuart at stuartbishop.net (Stuart Bishop)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:58:35 +0700 (ICT)
Subject: FW: pytz download link update
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] <olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov> wrote:

> Hello,
> it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code. Rather
> it can be found at the Python Package Index
> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz
> Please update the link found in http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm
> Kind regards,
> Marbod Mueller

http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ is the current homepage.

Downloads are at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz, but there is a link on the home page for that (although it does need to be made more obvious).

-- 
Stuart Bishop <stuart at stuartbishop.net>
http://www.stuartbishop.net/

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From wtz at worldtimezone.com  Thu Mar 26 14:18:17 2009
From: wtz at worldtimezone.com (Alexander Krivenyshev)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:18:17 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Palestinian government to start DST on night March 26 and to end on night 27 September 2009
Message-ID: <loom.20090326T141550-222@post.gmane.org>

According to the Palestine News Network (arabic.pnn.ps), 
Palestinian government decided to start Daylight Time on Thursday night March 
26 and continue until the night of 27 September 2009.

(in Arabic)
http://arabic.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50850

or 
(English translation)
http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_westbank01.html


Alexander Krivenyshev,
http://www.worldtimezone.com


From Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com  Thu Mar 26 17:03:01 2009
From: Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com (Mueller, Marbod)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:03:01 +0100
Subject: pytz download link update
In-Reply-To: <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F584512243193@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>

Hello Stuart,

yes it's all in place. 

Only, I was puzzled when following the link
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytz from twinsun and the sourceforge
download showed files from 2006.

Wouldn't it be good to change the link to point to the homepage
http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ ?

BTW, thanks for your very useful pytz package.

Kind regards,
Marbod Mueller

> _____________________________________________ 
> From: 	Stuart Bishop [mailto:stuart at stuartbishop.net] 
> Sent:	Thursday, March 26, 2009 14:59
> To:	tz at elsie.nci.nih.gov
> Cc:	tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov; Mueller, Marbod
> Subject:	Re: FW: pytz download link update
> 
> * PGP Signed by an unknown key
> 
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E]
> <olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > it appears that sourceforge does not host the latest pytz code.
> Rather
> > it can be found at the Python Package Index
> > http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz
> > Please update the link found in
> http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm
> > Kind regards,
> > Marbod Mueller
> 
> http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ is the current homepage.
> 
> Downloads are at http://pypi.python.org/pypi/pytz, but there is a link
> on the home page for that (although it does need to be made more
> obvious).
> 
> -- 
> Stuart Bishop <stuart at stuartbishop.net>
> http://www.stuartbishop.net/
> 
> 
> * Unknown Key
> * 0xBAC6374A
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From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 20:22:41 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:22:41 -0400
Subject: FW: Revision History of TZ database
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

I'm forwarding this message Hardik Patel, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately.

				--ado

From: Hardik Patel [mailto:hardik at yahoo-inc.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:16
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Cc: 'Hardik Patel'
Subject: Revision History of TZ database

Hi All,
Where can I find revision history of changes that has happened in TZ database across given two versions?
For example, I would like to know what all changes happened from TZ version 2007g to 2008c.
I will appreciate any pointers/help regarding this.
P.S. I have not subscribed to the timezone mailing list so kindly do ?Reply All? while responding this email thread else I will not be able to receive it.
Thanks,
Hardik



From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 20:32:53 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:53 -0400
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The file...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

				--ado



From olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov  Thu Mar 26 20:32:53 2009
From: olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov (Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E])
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:53 -0400
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

The file...
	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

				--ado



From autarch at urth.org  Thu Mar 26 20:36:29 2009
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:36:29 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org>

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:

> The file...
> 	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
> 	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

It would be really fantastic if the source for the database was kept in a 
publically accessible source repository of some modern variety.


-dave

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From jason.cipriani at gmail.com  Thu Mar 26 20:42:06 2009
From: jason.cipriani at gmail.com (Jason Cipriani)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:42:06 -0400
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
	 <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
	 <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org>
Message-ID: <c09049bf0903261342w5b4baa99yb2e74d5d11013802@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:
>
>> The file...
>> ? ? ? ?ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
>> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the
>> 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
>> ? ? ? ?http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
>> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to
>> 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.
>
> It would be really fantastic if the source for the database was kept in a
> publically accessible source repository of some modern variety.

Agreed; and rather trivial to set up source control of some sort,
assuming you have a server to host it on (a reasonable assumption).



From autarch at urth.org  Thu Mar 26 20:48:02 2009
From: autarch at urth.org (Dave Rolsky)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:48:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <c09049bf0903261342w5b4baa99yb2e74d5d11013802@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>  <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>  <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261535350.32099@urth.org> <c09049bf0903261342w5b4baa99yb2e74d5d11013802@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.0.9999.0903261547300.32099@urth.org>

On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Jason Cipriani wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Dave Rolsky <autarch at urth.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote:
>>
>>> The file...
>>> ?? ?? ?? ??ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
>>> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the
>>> 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
>>> ?? ?? ?? ??http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
>>> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to
>>> 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.
>>
>> It would be really fantastic if the source for the database was kept in a
>> publically accessible source repository of some modern variety.
>
> Agreed; and rather trivial to set up source control of some sort,
> assuming you have a server to host it on (a reasonable assumption).

There's github, bitkeeper, sourceforge, and innumerable other services.

Having a server of one's own is definitely not a requirement.


-dave

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From kre at munnari.OZ.AU  Fri Mar 27 01:33:26 2009
From: kre at munnari.OZ.AU (Robert Elz)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:33:26 +0700
Subject: Revision History of TZ database 
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> 
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>  <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> 
Message-ID: <12811.1238117606@epsilon.noi.kre.to>

    Date:        Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:32:53 -0400
    From:        "Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E]" <olsona at dc37a.nci.nih.gov>
    Message-ID:  <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B at nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>

  | 	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
  | ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages
  | from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.

ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub/oldtz has almost all of the tz* release files
(there are just a few missing) from the beginning (tzcode93.tar.Z) up
to now (except the current versions which are in ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub -
the same files available from elsie).

kre



From stuart at stuartbishop.net  Fri Mar 27 07:58:37 2009
From: stuart at stuartbishop.net (Stuart Bishop)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:58:37 +0700
Subject: pytz download link update
In-Reply-To: <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F584512243193@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A0575@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
	 <fsrifm4i7737swhxvvUYAxe124vaj_firegpg@mail.gmail.com>
	 <4BE6AC45C4946B449DCECBBE132F584512243193@DAEMSG03.eur.ad.sag>
Message-ID: <6bc73d4c0903270058u2a91e469u53d603e9c67c7964@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Mueller, Marbod
<Marbod.Mueller at softwareag.com> wrote:
> Hello Stuart,
>
> yes it's all in place.
>
> Only, I was puzzled when following the link
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytz from twinsun and the sourceforge
> download showed files from 2006.
>
> Wouldn't it be good to change the link to point to the homepage
> http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ ?

Yes. That would be good. The current sourceforge page being pointed to
is pretty useless.

> http://pytz.sourceforge.net/ is the current homepage.



-- 
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http://www.stuartbishop.net/


From philipp at redfish-solutions.com  Sun Mar 29 01:40:46 2009
From: philipp at redfish-solutions.com (Philip A. Prindeville)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:40:46 -0700
Subject: Generating "TZ" string from /etc/localtime?
Message-ID: <49CED19E.8020504@redfish-solutions.com>

Sorry if this is answered somewhere and I just haven't come across it.

I'm the lead developer for Astlinux:

http://www.astlinux.org

and we're using uClibc in an embedded Linux environment.  We need a way
of parsing out zoneinfo files (starting with whatever /etc/localtime
links to) and dumping out the string at the end:

I was looking in tzcode2009.tar.gz and couldn't find a function to parse
a tzfile... sort of the complement of writezone() in zic.c.

Also, are there any patches to make cross-compilation or packaging (a la
DESTDIR) easier?

Thanks,

-Philip




From sebastien at willemijns.com  Sun Mar 29 12:05:59 2009
From: sebastien at willemijns.com (Sébastien WILLEMIJNS)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:05:59 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Human readable DB
Message-ID: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>

Hello,

I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes:
Europe/Roma changes DST 29rd March 2009
Europe/Paris changes DST 29rd March 2009
and more and more...

Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these
infos in one page ?



From philip.newton at gmail.com  Sun Mar 29 12:28:17 2009
From: philip.newton at gmail.com (Philip Newton)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:28:17 +0200
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>
Message-ID: <537d06d00903290528y1ee20527s3c223dc9fc83216a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/3/29 S?bastien WILLEMIJNS <sebastien at willemijns.com>:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes:
> Europe/Roma changes DST 29rd March 2009
> Europe/Paris changes DST 29rd March 2009
> and more and more...
>
> Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these
> infos in one page ?

http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst2009.html comes close, though it
uses country names (+ locations, if necessary) rather than time zone
names.

Cheers,
-- 
Philip Newton <philip.newton at gmail.com>



From HJWOUDENBERG at aol.com  Sun Mar 29 12:37:00 2009
From: HJWOUDENBERG at aol.com (HJWOUDENBERG at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:37:00 EDT
Subject: Human readable DB
Message-ID: <d0d.4e5a739d.3700c56c@aol.com>

I found a place on the Internet.  I will see if I can locate it  again.  This 
is one site but there is another
_http://home.tiscali.nl/~t876506/TZworld.html_ 
(http://home.tiscali.nl/~t876506/TZworld.html) 
It is out their.
Herman J Woudenberg
 
 
In a message dated 3/29/2009 7:22:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
sebastien at willemijns.com writes:

Do you  know a software or/and online website which give me these
infos in one page  ?



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From info at weltzeituhr.com  Sun Mar 29 14:05:24 2009
From: info at weltzeituhr.com (Weltzeituhr)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:05:24 +0200
Subject: Human readable DB
Message-ID: <8CA316FFE5754A8A8A43D1DD301A7B02@weltzeituhr>

another site
http://www.weltzeituhr.com/laender/sommerzeiten_aktu_e.shtml

Regards
Klaus Marten
http://www.weltzeituhr.de

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "S?bastien WILLEMIJNS" <sebastien at willemijns.com>
To: <tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov>
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 2:05 PM
Subject: Human readable DB


Hello,

I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes:
Europe/Roma changes DST 29rd March 2009
Europe/Paris changes DST 29rd March 2009
and more and more...

Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these
infos in one page ?




From jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx  Sun Mar 29 21:48:16 2009
From: jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jesper_N=F8rgaard?=)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:48:16 -0600
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13>
Message-ID: <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>

Sebastien Willemijns wrote:

>I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes: Europe/Roma
changes DST 29rd March 2009 Europe/Paris 
>changes DST 29rd March 2009 and more and more...
>
>Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these infos in
one page ?

World Time Explorer is a program I made, it has a report for currently 512
distinct timezones with this format:

(254) Cuba, Havana (GMT-5) ? - Daylight Saving is active
17.24.00 Sunday 29. March 2009 -0400 EDT
DST start : 0.00.00 Sunday 8. March 2009 -0500 EST
DST end   : 1.00.00 Sunday 25. October 2009 -0400 EDT

You can sort output on Country, City, GMT offset, original order
(country+city), 
Daylight saving start date, daylight saving end date, or ISO 3-letter
country code.
Also it is possible to format the date/time format as you want. You will get
one entry for each state above for some countries though, even they are not
different this year, in other words has same GMT offset and same start and
end date.

It is 30-days shareware however, and making this report for other years than
1950 and current year requires a license. But your basic needs should be
covered for free. Note that it only runs in Windows. Download from
http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/download.html

Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen

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From Billy.Bennett at netapp.com  Mon Mar 30 02:35:59 2009
From: Billy.Bennett at netapp.com (Bennett, Billy)
Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:35:59 -0400
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13> <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC>
Message-ID: <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>

I have a php script that takes the compiled timzone file and produces a report you might find useful.  I have not published it yet, it was a project from long ago that I lost the need for so the page has not been kept up to date, but the program there  works and may meet your need.

http://timezones.foskie.com 

For example, if I give it the 2008b timezone file for new york and ask for 1991 to 2037, I get a table with:

Entry for timezone file
New_York (1267 bytes)
For 1991 through 2037
====================================
The second after          is
====================================
Apr 07, 1991 02:59:59 EDT 03:00 EDT
Oct 27, 1991 01:59:59 EDT 01:00 EST
Apr 05, 1992 01:59:59 EST 03:00 EDT
.
.
.
Nov 01, 2037 01:59:59 EDT 01:00 EST

The first line has an error, everything after that is correct.  The first line should have read 01:59:59 EST instead of 02:59:59 EDT.  

Regards,
= Billy Bennett
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesper N?rgaard [mailto:jnorgard at prodigy.net.mx] 
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:48 PM
To: TZ-list; sebastien at willemijns.com
Subject: RE: Human readable DB

Sebastien Willemijns wrote:

>I'm looking for human readable database of future DST changes: 
>Europe/Roma
changes DST 29rd March 2009 Europe/Paris 
>changes DST 29rd March 2009 and more and more...
>
>Do you know a software or/and online website which give me these infos 
>in
one page ?

World Time Explorer is a program I made, it has a report for currently 512 distinct timezones with this format:

(254) Cuba, Havana (GMT-5) ? - Daylight Saving is active 17.24.00 Sunday 29. March 2009 -0400 EDT DST start : 0.00.00 Sunday 8. March 2009 -0500 EST
DST end   : 1.00.00 Sunday 25. October 2009 -0400 EDT

You can sort output on Country, City, GMT offset, original order (country+city), Daylight saving start date, daylight saving end date, or ISO 3-letter country code.
Also it is possible to format the date/time format as you want. You will get one entry for each state above for some countries though, even they are not different this year, in other words has same GMT offset and same start and end date.

It is 30-days shareware however, and making this report for other years than 1950 and current year requires a license. But your basic needs should be covered for free. Note that it only runs in Windows. Download from http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/download.html

Regards, Jesper N?rgaard Welen

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20:05
 





From dr at ez.no  Mon Mar 30 07:32:02 2009
From: dr at ez.no (Derick Rethans)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:32:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13> <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC> <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903300928350.5127@kossu.ez.no>

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Bennett, Billy wrote:

> I have a php script that takes the compiled timzone file and produces 
> a report you might find useful.  I have not published it yet, it was a 
> project from long ago that I lost the need for so the page has not 
> been kept up to date, but the program there works and may meet your 
> need.

Do you realize that PHP has this information already embedded? Since PHP 
5.1 we bundle a compressed/archive version of the Olson database and use 
it internally for all date/timezone operations. It's quite trivial to 
generate this data:

<?php
$a = new DateTimeZone( "America/New_York" );
$ts = $a->getTransitions(); 
var_dump( $ts );
?>


with kind regards,
Derick

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From Billy.Bennett at netapp.com  Mon Mar 30 12:19:24 2009
From: Billy.Bennett at netapp.com (Bennett, Billy)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:19:24 -0400
Subject: Human readable DB
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903300928350.5127@kossu.ez.no>
References: <Xns9BDD8F6E7F3E7nospamnospamcom@80.91.229.13> <000001c9b0b8$14ab2000$4201a8c0@NORGAARDPC> <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062033AD@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com> <alpine.DEB.2.00.0903300928350.5127@kossu.ez.no>
Message-ID: <ACC06D18667D7F408B8EE9F20A6873CC062034E2@RTPMVEXC1-PRD.hq.netapp.com>

Excellent!  How do I get this function to read the file a visitor
uploads, instead of just providing the information from php's separate
implementation of the zoneinfo data? I didn't think that was possible,
so I used the routines I wrote long ago for the same purpose.


Thanks,
=Billy Bennett  
Escalations Engineer

-----Original Message-----
From: Derick Rethans [mailto:dr at ez.no] 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 3:32 AM
To: tz at lecserver.nci.nih.gov
Cc: TZ-list; sebastien at willemijns.com
Subject: RE: Human readable DB

On Sun, 29 Mar 2009, Bennett, Billy wrote:

> I have a php script that takes the compiled timzone file and produces 
> a report you might find useful.  I have not published it yet, it was a

> project from long ago that I lost the need for so the page has not 
> been kept up to date, but the program there works and may meet your 
> need.

Do you realize that PHP has this information already embedded? Since PHP
5.1 we bundle a compressed/archive version of the Olson database and use
it internally for all date/timezone operations. It's quite trivial to
generate this data:

<?php
$a = new DateTimeZone( "America/New_York" ); $ts = $a->getTransitions();
var_dump( $ts ); ?>


with kind regards,
Derick

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twitter: derickrethans




From baby at baby.com.ar  Mon Mar 30 14:34:26 2009
From: baby at baby.com.ar (Mariano Absatz - El Baby)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:34:26 -0300
Subject: Revision History of TZ database
In-Reply-To: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
References: <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057A@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov> <B410D30A78C6404C9DABEA31B54A2813029A057B@nihcesmlbx10.nih.gov>
Message-ID: <49D0D872.1010605@baby.com.ar>

Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] escribi? el 26/03/09 17:32:
> The file...
> 	ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz
> ...has everything from the mailing list back to the beginning. For the 2007-to-2009 period mentioned in the electronic mail, the URL...
> 	http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/nslu2/sources/?C=N;O=D
> ...provided by Oregon State University has time zone packages from 2007 to 2009; extracting and running diff will do the job.
>   
To download old versions of tzcode and tzdata, I'd rather use 
ftp://munnari.oz.au/pub/oldtz/ (which is already linked in 
http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm).

It goes back to tzcode93/tzdata93b and seems to be more up to date, 
since the newest tzdata is 2009c (and osuosl.org newest one is 2009a).

Regards.

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From olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov  Tue Mar 31 18:49:34 2009
From: olsona at lecserver.nci.nih.gov (Arthur David Olson)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:49:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: proposed time zone package changes for Palestine, pytz home page
Message-ID: <200903311849.n2VInYvZ025683@lecserver.nci.nih.gov>

Below are two proposed time zone packages changes, the first to the "asia" file
to reflect Palestine's change this year in the start and en of DST and the
second to the tz-link.htm file to reflect the change in the pytz home page.

If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp directory this
coming Monday.

				--ado

------- asia -------
*** /tmp/geta25630	Tue Mar 31 14:46:47 2009
--- /tmp/getb25630	Tue Mar 31 14:46:47 2009
***************
*** 1,4 ****
! # @(#)asia	8.26
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
--- 1,4 ----
! # @(#)asia	8.27
  # <pre>
  
  # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better,
***************
*** 1695,1700 ****
--- 1695,1716 ----
  # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_gazastrip01.html
  # </a>
  
+ # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-26):
+ # According to the Palestine News Network (arabic.pnn.ps), Palestinian
+ # government decided to start Daylight Time on Thursday night March
+ # 26 and continue until the night of 27 September 2009.
+ #
+ # (in Arabic)
+ # <a href="http://arabic.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50850">
+ # http://arabic.pnn.ps/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=50850
+ # </a>
+ #
+ # or
+ # (English translation)
+ # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_westbank01.html">
+ # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_westbank01.html
+ # </a>
+ 
  # The rules for Egypt are stolen from the `africa' file.
  # Rule	NAME	FROM	TO	TYPE	IN	ON	AT	SAVE	LETTER/S
  Rule EgyptAsia	1957	only	-	May	10	0:00	1:00	S
***************
*** 1708,1717 ****
  Rule Palestine	1999	2003	-	Oct	Fri>=15	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2004	only	-	Oct	 1	1:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2005	only	-	Oct	 4	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2006	max	-	Apr	 1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule Palestine	2006	only	-	Sep	22	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2007	only	-	Sep	Thu>=8	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2008	max	-	Aug	lastThu	2:00	0	-
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Gaza	2:17:52	-	LMT	1900 Oct
--- 1724,1735 ----
  Rule Palestine	1999	2003	-	Oct	Fri>=15	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2004	only	-	Oct	 1	1:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2005	only	-	Oct	 4	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2006	2008	-	Apr	 1	0:00	1:00	S
  Rule Palestine	2006	only	-	Sep	22	0:00	0	-
  Rule Palestine	2007	only	-	Sep	Thu>=8	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2008	only	-	Aug	lastThu	2:00	0	-
! Rule Palestine	2009	max	-	Mar	lastThu	0:00	1:00	S
! Rule Palestine	2009	max	-	Sep	lastSun	2:00	0	-
  
  # Zone	NAME		GMTOFF	RULES	FORMAT	[UNTIL]
  Zone	Asia/Gaza	2:17:52	-	LMT	1900 Oct

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  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
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  <p>
  Please send corrections to this web page to the
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  <h1>Sources for Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data</h1>
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  <code>org.joda.time.tz.ZoneInfoCompiler</code> that compiles
  <code>tz</code> source into a Joda-specific binary format. Joda Time
  is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>
! <li><a href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/pytz">PyTZ - Python Time
  Zone Library</a> compiles <code>tz</code> source into
  <a href="http://python.org/">Python</a>.
  It is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>
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  <code>org.joda.time.tz.ZoneInfoCompiler</code> that compiles
  <code>tz</code> source into a Joda-specific binary format. Joda Time
  is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>
! <li><a href="http://pytz.sourceforge.net">PyTZ - Python Time
  Zone Library</a> compiles <code>tz</code> source into
  <a href="http://python.org/">Python</a>.
  It is freely available under a <abbr>BSD</abbr>-style license.</li>