[IPsec] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev1-algo-to-historic-08: (with COMMENT)

Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi> Sun, 18 December 2022 10:34 UTC

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Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 12:34:12 +0200
From: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>
To: Murray Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
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Subject: [IPsec] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev1-algo-to-historic-08: (with COMMENT)
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Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker writes:
> The document shepherd writeup says:
> 
> --
> 15. Should any informative references be normative or vice-versa?
> 
> Yes.
> --
> 
> I'm assuming the shepherd just ran over the question too quickly.
> But, if you really meant "Yes" here, what's the plan to fix it?

No, the document did have incorrect split when I reviewed the document
during the shepherd writeup, as can be seen from my email to authors:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ipsec/eua5PlKQtlWA6Ni7PJRHukPbmsg/

but I still sent the document forward as this is something that can be
fixed later, and did not want to delay publication while waiting the
authors to fix these kind of issues.

The authors published -06 version immediately after that which fixed
the normative and informative references split:

https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev1-algo-to-historic-05&url2=draft-ietf-ipsecme-ikev1-algo-to-historic-06&difftype=--html
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