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Between this session and the preceding session, the IEEE 802.1 Maintenance Task Group (TG) held an electronic meeting whose minutes are incorporated to these session minutes by reference as follows:
	- Minutes of the Maintenance TG meeting held 2023-07-26 10:05 – 10:56 ET https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=STDS-802-1-MINUTES;afe9193e.23&S=

Call to order Sep 12, 2023 at 8:00 ET by Jessy Rouyer, acting IEEE 802.1 Maintenance TG Chair (acting Chair), who presided and wrote the minutes assisted by Karen Randall, IEEE 802.1 Liaison Secretary.
 
The following list reflects the attendance and affiliation of participants who recorded their attendance in IMAT or provided it separately.
Arunarthi, Venkat	Broadcom Corporation
Assmann, Ralf		Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.
Bao, Huajie		Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd
Belliardi, Rudy		Schneider Electric
Boiger, Christian	Infineon Technologies
Bottorff, Paul		Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P.
Canchi, Radhakrishna	Kyocera International Inc
Choudhury, Abhijit	Broadcom Corporation
Davis, Andy		Ultra Electronics
Dorr, Josef		Siemens AG
Farkas, Janos		Ericsson AB
Finn, Norman		Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd
Garner, Geoffrey	Analog Devices
Gravel, Mark		Hewlett Packard Enterprise
Gunther, Craig		LabN Consulting, L.L.C.
Haasz, Jodi		IEEE Standards Association (IEEE-SA)
Hantel, Mark		Rockwell Automation
Ito, Yoshihiro		Nagoya Institute of Technology
Karl, Michael		Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.
Kehrer, Stephan		Hirschmann Automation and Control, Inc.
Kiessling, Marcel	Beckhoff Automation
Lai, Gavin		Moxa Networking Co., Ltd.
Li, Yizhou		Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd
Mangin, Christophe	Mitsubishi Electric Corporation
Mansfield, Scott	Telefon AB LM Ericsson
Nakano, Hiroki		CAHI Corporation; Kyoto University
Noseworthy, Bob		University of New Hampshire InterOperability Laboratory (UNH-IOL)
Ostertag, Martin	Zurich University of Applied Sciences
Parsons, Glenn		Ericsson AB
Proell, Dieter		Siemens AG
Randall, Karen		Randall Consulting
Rodrigues, Silvana	Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd
Rodriguez, Allan	GE; General Electric
Rouyer, Jessy		Nokia
Seewald, Maik		Cisco Systems, Inc.
Sivakolundu, Ramesh	Cisco Systems, Inc.
Specht, Johannes	Self
Stamenic, Nemanja	Siemens AG
Turner, Max		Ethernovia
Varga, Balazs		Ericsson AB
Wei, Te			Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd
Winkel, Ludwig		PNO e.V.
Wood, Tim		General Electric Company (GE)
Woods, Jordon		Analog Devices Inc.
Wu, Xuming		Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd
Zein, Nader		NEC Europe (NLE)
Zheng, Haomian		Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd

Agenda items and dispositions:
1. Meeting introduction. The acting Chair reminded encouraged anyone willing to step up in the Maintenance TG Chair role to inform the WG Chair or Vice-Chair.
The IEEE SA slides on IEEE Patent Policy and IEEE SA Copyright and Participation Policies were provided beforehand as part of “MEETING INTRODUCTION” http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/templates/admin-TG-intro-0323-v01.pdf.
The acting Chair announced that the meeting is subject to these Policies as read and displayed at the opening plenary meeting.
The acting Chair made the Call for Potentially Essential Patents thereby providing an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard: there were no responses to this Call prior to the end of the meeting.
The acting Chair asked participants to record their attendance in IMAT and, if they are unable to do so, to promptly provide their affiliation to the minute taker.

2. Approval of agenda. The acting Chair presented the “Maintenance Task Group Meeting | September 12, 2023 – 8:00 ET | Agenda” slide in “Maintenance Task Group Mixed Mode Meeting” https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/maint-rouyer-hy-0923-v00.pdf.
Disposition: The agenda was reviewed, discussed (with indication that P802.1ASdr SA ballot comment resolution would not take place in this meeting since the ballot was extended), and agreed (informally, none dissenting) as presented.

3. Maintenance TG project status. The acting Chair presented the “Maintenance TG Project Status” slide in “Maintenance Task Group Mixed Mode Meeting” https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/maint-rouyer-hy-0923-v00.pdf.
Disposition: For information.

4. SC6 status update. Karen Randall, 802.1 Liaison Secretary, presented “ISO/IEC JTC1 SC6 STATUS September 2023” slides in “Maintenance Task Group Mixed Mode Meeting” https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/maint-rouyer-hy-0923-v00.pdf.
Disposition: For information.

5. Vehicle status update. The acting Chair presented “Vehicle Status Update” in “Maintenance Task Group Mixed Mode Meeting” https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/maint-rouyer-hy-0923-v00.pdf. The incorporation of older open items (among 77 open items) should be confirmed so they can be closed.
Disposition: A dedicated Maintenance TG meeting will be scheduled (see agenda item 14) to review open items and clean up the IEEE 802.1 maintenance database at https://www.802-1.org/home.

6. P802.1ACea PAR/CSD generation. The acting Chair presented the “P802.1ACea PAR/CSD generation” slide in “Maintenance Task Group Mixed Mode Meeting” https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/maint-rouyer-hy-0923-v00.pdf and led the review of https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/ea-rouyer-draft-PAR-0923-v00.pdf and https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/ea-rouyer-draft-CSD-0923-v00.pdf.
Disposition:
	- Updated PAR: https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/ea-PAR-0923-v01.pdf, updated post-session (to add inadvertently-omitted “developers, bridge and network interface controller vendors, and users” to 5.6) for pre-circulation as https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/ea-PAR-0923-v02.pdf.
	- CSD for pre-circulation: https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/ea-CSD-0923-v01.pdf.

7. Existing Maintenance Requests. The acting Chair led the discussion of the “Existing Maintenance Requests (requiring further discussion)” slide in “Maintenance Task Group Mixed Mode Meeting” https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/maint-rouyer-hy-0923-v00.pdf:
	- 0242: IEEE Std 802.1Qcp-2018: Collected YANG issues – Johannes Specht
	- 0312: Stream ID as a Key for YANG lists – Don Fedyk
	- 0314: network media and PHY – Johannes Specht
	- 0324: Use of Tick in List Execute state machine (802.1Q) – Max Turner
	- 0337: Inaccurate description of URN usage in published YANG clauses and
	- ongoing project(s) – Mick Seaman
	- 0340: Misleading details on ATS MaxResidenceTime – Max Turner
	- 0342: StreamID, StreamID Group, StreamID TLV – Max Turner
	- 0343: Handling of stream_handle in Active Stream – Max Turner
	- 0360: syncReceiptTimeout and announceReceiptTimeout need range specified – Geoff Garner
Additionally to 0360, the following were also discussed:
		- 0280: time-aware should be PTP – Geoff Garner
		- 0283: Choose appropriate “domain number” or “domainNumber” – Geoff Garner
	- 0361: Add a managed object to control the use of signal – Guenter Steindl
	- 0362: IEEE 802.1AS REVISION REQUEST on Invoking the MDpDelay SMs w/o CMLDS – Max Turner
Disposition: Details for discussion on all items are logged in the IEEE 802.1 maintenance database at https://www.802-1.org/home where items progressed at the meeting can be reviewed by selecting ‘Meetings’.

8. New maintenance requests. The acting Chair led the discussion of the following new maintenance requests:
	- 0363 IEEE 802.1Q-2022 maximum SDU size – Christian Boiger
	- 0364 Stream split table in IEEE 802.1CBcv-2021 FRER YANG – Josef Dorr
Disposition: Agreed (informally, none dissenting) to continue discussing 0364 in the Maintenance TG meeting to be held Sep 13, 2023. Details for discussion on all items are logged in the IEEE 802.1 maintenance database at https://www.802-1.org/home where items progressed at the meeting can be reviewed by selecting ‘Meetings’.

9. Any Other Business. No other business was discussed in this meeting.

10:11 ET recess

Call to order Sep 13, 2023 at 8:00 ET by Jessy Rouyer, acting IEEE 802.1 Maintenance TG Chair (acting Chair), who presided and wrote the minutes assisted by Karen Randall, IEEE 802.1 Liaison Secretary.

The following list reflects the attendance and affiliation of participants who recorded their attendance in IMAT or provided it separately.
Arrington, Arthur	Air Network Solutions
Bhullar, Puneet		Ericsson
Gilb, James		General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, Inc.
Hamilton, Mark		Ruckus Wireless
Karl, Michael		Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.
Kiessling, Marcel	Beckhoff Automation
Lalitte, Vanessa	IEEE SA (Staff)
Levy, Joseph		InterDigital, Inc.
Lewis, Jon		Dell EMC
Mansfield, Scott	Telefon AB LM Ericsson
Marks, Roger		EthAirNet Associates
Parsons, Glenn		Ericsson AB
Randall, Karen		Randall Consulting
Rouyer, Jessy		Nokia

10. Meeting introduction. The acting Chair announced that the meeting remains subject to the Policies mentioned in agenda item 1.
The acting Chair made the Call for Potentially Essential Patents thereby providing an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard: there were no responses to this Call prior to the end of the meeting.
The acting Chair asked participants to record their attendance in IMAT and, if they are unable to do so, to promptly provide their affiliation to the minute taker.

11. Approval of agenda. The acting Chair “Maintenance Task Group Meeting | September 13, 2023 – 8:00 ET | Agenda” slide in “Maintenance Task Group Mixed Mode Meeting” https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2023/maint-rouyer-hy-0923-v01.pdf.
Disposition: The agenda was reviewed, and agreed (informally, none dissenting) as presented.

12. P802-REVc comment resolution. James Gilb, P802-REVc editor, presented “IEEE P802-REVc Working Group Ballot Recirculaton #1 Comment Resolution” https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/23/1-23-0024-00-Mntg-p802-revc-wg-rc1-comment-resolution.odp and led the resolution of comments received on https://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/802-REVc-drafts/d1/P802-REVc-d1-1.pdf. 
Disposition: Comments 58, 71, 72, 73, 75, 76, 10, 28, 43, 44, 74, 16, 35, 45, 46, 47, 17, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 12, 2, 11, 29, 32, 14, 15, 26, 33, 3, 55, 56 discussed. Partial disposition: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.1/dcn/23/1-23-0022-02-Mntg-p802-revc-d1-1-comments-pdis.ods. Agreed (informally, none dissenting) to schedule the following inter-session Maintenance TG meetings for further P802-REVc comment resolution:
	- Oct 4, 2023, 11:00-13:00 ET 
	- Oct 25, 2023, 11:00-13:00 ET
	- Nov 1, 2023, 11:00-13:00 ET

13. Unaddressed agenda items from Sep 12 (time permitting). The acting Chair led the continued discussion of the following new maintenance request:
	- 0364 Stream split table in IEEE 802.1CBcv-2021 FRER YANG – Josef Dorr
Disposition: Details for discussion on all items are logged in the IEEE 802.1 maintenance database at https://www.802-1.org/home where items progressed at the meeting can be reviewed by selecting ‘Meetings’.

14. Any Other Business. Agreed (informally, none dissenting) to schedule the following inter-session Maintenance TG meetings:
	- Oct 17, 2023, 11:00-13:00 ET to review open items and clean up the IEEE 802.1 maintenance database at https://www.802-1.org/home.
	- Nov 7, 2023, 11:00-13:00 ET to review 802 PARs under consideration and liaisons ahead of the Nov 2023 plenary session.
No other business was discussed in this session.

10:16 ET adjournment

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