Sub-group Members: Alan Greenberg, Avri Doria, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, Greg Shatan, Klaus Stoll, Akinori Maemura, Robin Gross
Staff: Bernard Turcotte, Berry Cobb, Brenda Brewer, Patrick Dodson
Apologies: George Sadowsky
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
Transcript
Recording
Agenda
1. Intro: agenda review, attendance, SOI check
2. Substantive issue/s of the week
● Report v1.2 - discuss/accept the open edits.
Does the group accept this as the working version for reading?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vH5su7SDGE0i_rTstbYJ7tIaOFuRnV4dfqpwMTPoYa8/edit?usp=sharing
3. Documents Update
3.1 Report - Rev 1.1
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4C745NEsGNqMnp0eHA0eDVoTDQ/view?usp=sharing
3.3. Supplement to Report - Draft 06 -
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vqz7RDHgazhZfIVyv5tzAbtQfgLACqV-wGD7xPX9-w8/edit?usp=sharing
No longer a working document
3.2. Response to Staff Questions - pending review and readings https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ELuw6i3mGAjnZBe0Vc_lraNQrWw5m_I6UyipEHaRJxc/edit?usp=sharing
3.3 Board’s and other issues on Report Draft 1.1
Issues list can found at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QsW8VUd6dCTu4LlE8IWsP9ioQUPTARhfh9-BfHGbA8s/edit?usp=sharing
3.4 Staff Accountability Checklist
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f_RTQpJppjHF_sfzbE9vHE_EaiEmIjzIfYRcBoD6Ax8/edit?usp=sharing
Action Items
● Patrick to update draft based on his comments
4. Schedule update - Needs updating
● Document for Plenary Readings
○ 1st 18 Oct Delivered by 11 Oct
○ 2nd 27 Oct Delivered by 20 Oct (23 stretch)
● Public comment period : Dec
● Absorb comments and adjust proposals -
● Abu Dhabi meeting - end October
● Out of Time - June 2018
Updated meeting schedule:
● 30 Aug 1900 UTC
● 13 Sep 0500 UTC
● 28 Sep 1300 UTC
5. AOB
Raw Captioning Notes
Please note that these are the unofficial transcript. Official transcript will be posted 2-3 days after the call
Decisions:
- Draft document accepted for a first reading by the sub-group with some suggestions for improvement.
Action Items:
- AD will review the document to include the edits discussed and the revised document will be presented to the sub-group for its second ready at the next meeting scheduled for 13 September (documents for the September plenary are due on 20 September).
Requests:
- (None)
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Brenda Brewer: (8/30/2017 10:16) Good day and welcome to WS2 Staff Accountability Subgroup Meeting #27 on 30 August 2017 @ 19:00 UTC!
Brenda Brewer: (10:16) If you are not speaking, please mute your phone by pressing *6 (star 6). To unmute, *6. This call is recorded.
Brenda Brewer: (10:17) Reminder to all, for captioning and transcription, please state your name before speaking and speak slowly. Thank you!
Bonnie-CART: (11:50) Hello, Brenda! Can you please tell me who the rapporteur will be for this meeting?
Brenda Brewer: (11:50) Avri Doria
Bonnie-CART: (11:51) Thank you!
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:58) hi all
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (11:59) hello all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (11:59) hi
Alan Greenberg: (12:00) Or quickly cancel before someone else arrives!
avri doria: (12:01) i thought it was 5@5
avri doria: (12:01) which looks like SOS and it is what we will need to send out if we can't move forward.
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (12:02) wwe have 5 participants so we are good to go Avri
avri doria: (12:02) Thanks Bernie.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:07) all good
Alan Greenberg: (12:07) URL for Doc?
Patrick Dodson: (12:13) the thanks paragraph is moved to the end of the document. wasn't removed completely.
Patrick Dodson: (12:20) i'm also wondering if the supplemental document will further detail out that information
Brenda Brewer: (12:25) document now has scroll for all
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:26) not at this stage
Patrick Dodson: (12:27) i think remove "a"
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:30) I was typing.... these are all accepted IMO
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:31) makes sense
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:36) footnote works as defined in guidelines
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:36) yep
Patrick Dodson: (12:36) i think it would, yes
Patrick Dodson: (12:37) i think just in general being more clear about what areas we need these guidelines will help
Patrick Dodson: (12:38) in the re-working might these two items collapse into a single ask?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:38) hmm
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:39) ok as is perhaps
Patrick Dodson: (12:39) just thinking if we talk to guidelines and get specific it might resolve itself
Patrick Dodson: (12:41) i like Avri's suggested comment for the thank you paragraph
Klaus Stoll: (12:41) I support Avris version
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:41) believed by is ok
Patrick Dodson: (12:49) can we define a scenario that would require the exerciing of the panel?
Patrick Dodson: (12:49) i fear without a use case we will lose validity.
Klaus Stoll: (12:50) How will the empowered community choose its representative?
Bernard Turcotte - ICANN: (12:51) time check - 9 minutes left in call
Patrick Dodson: (12:51) maybe under the recommendations on accountability mechanisms we suggest that ICANN organization clearly establish and communicate a mechanism for addressing topics that fall into the remit of any one mechanim.
Klaus Stoll: (12:53) I like the idea
Patrick Dodson: (12:53) I think it will be more welcomed if we frame the need and ask organization to evaluate and propose a solution.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:54) fine
MAEMURA Akinori: (12:55) Thank you for hte edit on the panel point. It's much better and understandable.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (12:57) excellent
Greg Shatan: (12:58) Wonderful first reading, all!
Patrick Dodson: (13:00) Was happy to help out.
Klaus Stoll: (13:00) Thanks all, Thanks Patrick
MAEMURA Akinori: (13:00) Thank you very much all!
Bonnie-CART: (13:00) Thank you!
