Sub-group Members: Avri Doria, Beth Bacon, Cheryl Langdon-Orr, George Sadowsky, Greg Shatan, Jordan Carter, Sebastien Bachollet (7)
Staff: Karen Mulberry, Yvette Guigneaux
Apologies: Jeff Neuman, Klaus Stoll
** If your name is missing from attendance or apology, please send note to acct-staff@icann.org **
Transcript
Recording
Agenda
1. Intro: agenda review, attendance, SOI check
2. Finalize Document A version 1.4.
Jordan is rapporteur on this document
( main item at ---- meeting)
Document, open to comments and suggested edits, can be found at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGRrJZ-i7WA0uYBIHaB5Q3ssqfRmbAcgHJwlQ6 scHZY/edit
3. Discussion / seeking feedback on Draft Document B – Avri is rapporteur on this document
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UnkJuukv0px-CfIDgLrjdDZa2CpBvSahPvAXdYYT eHk/edit
4. Continuing Discussion of Responses to Staff questions (if time)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ELuw6i3mGAjnZBe0Vc_lraNQrWw5m_I6UyipEHa RJxc/edit?usp=sharing
5. Schedule check
6. AOB
Notes (including relevant portions of the chat)
1. Intro: review of the agenda, attendance, SOI check.
- Focus is to complete Document A and then will review Document B. Last if time allows will focus on responses to questions.
-Questions and comments on agenda
Suggestion to focus on Document A with objective on having something for Copenhagen
- Agenda accepted as posted
- SOI Update
2. Finalize Document A version 1.4.
Jordan is rapporteur on this document and reviewed the draft document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGRrJZ-i7WA0uYBIHaB5Q3ssqfRmbAcgHJwlQ6scHZY/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs[docs.google.com] comments.and changes, will walk through the document for discussion. Objective to get to agreed draft
- Comments and discussion on the draft
- Section on what the ICANN Board does not do - noted that this may need to be re-addressed as it does not cover sufficient details and the way the process works
- Proposal to move text to Annex - Section 2 as quite long and to shorten the paper this could be moved to the end to be retained as part of a single paper.
- Anything to make the work more concise would be benificial - support was for the Annex but not for deleting text
- Section 3 Proposed Changes and Clarifications review comments suggested
- Section 4 Activities that should be started/continued/stopped - revised the text to better align with the section heading, suggestion to go with bullet point list for group review and feedback. Noted similar concern with prior text being a think piece that went beyond staff accountability as well as some comments that did not address what was proposed for section content.
- Discussion on approach - delete section 4 content and then merge text with Section 5, leaving bullets in Section 4 - need to reserve action until can consult with author of that section on proposal to move text
- Noted from chat:
Cheryl LangdonOrr (CLO): That works for me Jordan if you also specifically reach out to
Klaus to engage him ASAP in the process ASAP
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): but Annex seems most likely... However
Greg Shatan: Agree with Avri, and perhaps we can find some concrete objects in the prior text, e.g., evaluating staff against KPIs.
- Noted that the text is confusing as to what/who is being referred to Staff, ICANN.org - unclear and may need some clarity, ex CEO is
the voice of ICANN or the voice of Staff - one of troublesome questions.
- Sebastien - Currently drafting paper looking at Ombudsman Compliant Officer and so nothing else
- Need to look into conflicts of interests with part time and consultants as there may be a need to relook at ROI requirements
- Action Item - get sections 4 and 5 out for review and comment so document can be finalized
3. Discussion / seeking feedback on Draft Document B v 1.2
(Avri is rapporteur on this Document) - Reviewed draft document B text and comments submitted, noted that documents did not cover multistakeholder
4. Schedule check
Discussion on next steps and meetings for the group to arrange a call next week to complete the document in time to submit for
Copenhagen Plenary. Looking to reschedule and hold another meeting for consensus on Doc A. Also request that group look at Doc B
as well so the document can be progressed. Reviewed adjustments to dates for work to be completed
5. AOB - No other business
Documents Presented
Chat Transcript
Yvette Guigneaux: (2/21/2017 20:20) Welcome all to the Staff Accountability Meeting #9 | 22 February 2017 @ 05:00 UTC!
Karen Mulberry: (20:59) No echo on my end either
Jordan Carter 2: (20:59) hi folks
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:00) volume is great Avri
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:00) :-(
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:00) Sorry just saying ... ... ...
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:01) Correct George
Jordan Carter 2: (21:01) i started using phone during WS1 because nothing else workd properly
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:04) surely we *cn* get A into the CPH Meeting ?
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:04) cn = Can
Jordan Carter 2: (21:05) i guess we just need to confirm we want to, cheryl :)
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:06) ok
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:09) scrolling available if needed
avri doria: (21:10) Sorry about the comment, but in the past people have complained that on the pdf, they could not see the comments. so found a way to include them.
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:13) We can hear you George
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:18) hi George, apologies but there was some background noise on the line so it was muted - if you want to speak feel free - just *6 (star 6) to unmute
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:18) I am OK with the Annex approach Jordan
George Sadowsky: (21:20) @Yvette - I'm not n the phone, I'm on
George Sadowsky: (21:20) Adobe
Jordan Carter 2: (21:20) thnaks greg
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:27) hi Jordan - who was the other apology? i noted Jeff
Jordan Carter 2: (21:27) Klaus was an apol
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:27) ok, thank you, will note
Greg Shatan: (21:30) Put on an ice floe?
Greg Shatan: (21:31) The new US administration cancelled climate change -- didn't you get the memo?
Jordan Carter 2: (21:31) oh, whew
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:32) That works for me Jordan if yiu also specifically reach out to Klaus to engage him ASAP in the process ASAP
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:33) but Annex seems most likely... However
Greg Shatan: (21:34) Agree with Avri, and perhaps we can find some concrete objects in the prior text, e.g., evaluating staff against KPIs.
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:34) Yes Greg some can be reused
Greg Shatan: (21:36) OK
Jordan Carter 2: (21:38) Completely agree w Sebastien's first point
Jordan Carter 2: (21:39) all made sense to me thanks Sebastien
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): (21:40) put it to Plenary
Greg Shatan: (21:44) It's a lot more than A and B...
Greg Shatan: (21:45) Also G, K and M.
Greg Shatan: (21:46) Also N.
Greg Shatan: (21:47) And O seems way off the mark, though I would love to hear what Sebastian as the rapporteur of the Ombudsman Subgroup has to say about that and the other Ombudsman discussions.
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:49) i can let you know about hands that are up
avri doria 2: (21:50) back in ac
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:50) ok back to you Avri =)
Jordan Carter 2: (21:54) It seems like our next call is actually 3 March, which is less than ten days beffore the plenary. I think we have to ask permission of the group to be a late paper for A
Jordan Carter 2: (21:54) the group = the Plenary
Jordan Carter 2: (21:54) or, we reschedule our call
Jordan Carter 2: (21:55) it's before 1 March
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:55) do a call next week
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:55) ok will work on finding it Avri
Jordan Carter 2: (21:55) we would have to do 28 Feb at 05 UT
Jordan Carter 2: (21:56) that's still clear
Yvette Guigneaux: (21:56) schedule doc on screen - scrolling available
Jordan Carter 2: (21:56) there is no 29 Feb, but we can do 28 Feb
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (21:59) on 28th I can do 0500 UTC for 60 mins then I have other meetings
Jordan Carter 2: (21:59) or even 27 Feb, the slots are there
Jordan Carter 2: (21:59) no AOB from me
Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO) 2: (22:00) bye for now then
George Sadowsky: (22:00) Thank you Avri
